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Upon being criticised for their support of the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks, tankies unsurprisingly double down (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 week ago by goat@sh.itjust.works to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bad on what grounds? His Soviet project certainly didn’t last, I think that failure is bad. He had quite a few deaths under his leadership, that was pretty bad, too. But it’d be crazy to discuss Stalin’s failures without acknowledging the post war reality: a depleted and war-torn Russia, former allies (who just dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to make a point) immediately resuming hostilities and sanctions against his fledgling national project, and the isolation that comes with being that cold-war black sheep that nobody wants to play with. From that perspective it’s suddenly not surprising that his project failed, even if you think he committed huge atrocities on the way down.

If you disagree with Stalin, you'd better be quick to acknowledge the systemic conditions that contributed to his failure before you get to blaming him for the holomodor lmao. Fair game if you think his leadership decisions were huge mistakes or weren't justified, though they'll probably disagree.

damn that didn't take long at all, what is it with you guys and your inability to disavow stalin's atrocities? poor, poor Stalin's USSR was forced to do genocide, they had to kill all those people :(

Lenin is screaming at you

Since you've been banned for this very topic before, this one will last 48 hours. You may request to be unbanned and your comments restored at any time. Something that Hexbear will not give you

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're way too lenient with someone who self admitted to be here to troll.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

I am very lenient with them, yeah. It's good to have people with dissenting opinions, even though they're acting in bad faith and have admitted to just fishing for replies. Diversity is key, afterall. Of course, it'll be different if they were insulting every user here and generally being a bad sport.

However, the line is drawn at apologia.