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US to probe Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after pedestrian killed in low visibility conditions (apnews.com)

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The U.S. government’s road safety agency is again investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system, this time after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday with the company reporting four crashes after Teslas entered areas of low visibility, including sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said.

Investigators will look into the ability of “Full Self-Driving” to “detect and respond appropriately to reduced roadway visibility conditions, and if so, the contributing circumstances for these crashes.”

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 82 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Tesla, which has repeatedly said the system cannot drive itself and human drivers must be ready to intervene at all times.

how is it legal to label this "full self driving" ?

[–] kiku@feddit.org 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If customers can't assume that boneless wings don't have bones in them, then they shouldn't assume that Full Self Driving can self-drive the car.

The courts made it clear that words don't matter, and that the company can't be liable for you assuming that words have meaning.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Right? It's crazy that this is legal.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

It drives your full self, it doesn't break you into components and ship those seperately.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

"I freely admit that the refreshing sparkling water I sell is poisonous and should not be consumed."

[–] don@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

“But to be clear, although I most certainly know for a fact that the refreshing sparkling water I sell is exceedingly poisonous and should in absolutely no way be consumed by any living (and most dead*) beings, I will nevertheless very heartily encourage you to buy it. What you do with it after is entirely up to you.

*~Exceptions~ ~may~ ~apply.~ ~You~ ~might~ ~be~ ~one.~

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's pretty clearly just a disclaimer meant to shield them from legal repercussions. They know people aren't going to do that.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago

Last time I checked that disclaimer was there because officially Teslas are SAE level 2, which let's them evade regulations that higher SAE levels have, and in practice Tesla FSD beta is SAE level 4.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It is a legal label, if it was safe it would be "safe full self driving".

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 7 points 8 hours ago

legal or not it's absolutely bonkers. Safety should be the legal assumption for marketing terms like this, not an optional extra.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Literally its "partial self driving" or "drive assist"