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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, "Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND."

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[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do electric mopeds and motorcycles count?

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which are currently being replaced by electric bicycles.

[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not on distances I'll have to travel after we finally move to an office further away in a car-centric hellhole. 18 km (~10 miles). ½ hr on a motorcycle or a moped, twice as long on an (e-)bike. Nah, I'm not doing the latter in the morning when I can barely get out of my bed. And I'm not the only one complaining about the office moving.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see people blasting around on ebikes going 40+ mph daily. They are actually faster than a lot of gas powered mopeds and scooters.

Some of these ebikes have a 40-60 mile range too.

[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know they're illegal? E-bikes are supposed to go 25 kph (~15 mph) max and only assist when you pedal. Not the best solution when I want to get to work quite far away in the morning without being pulled over for obvious speeding on a cycleway.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Europe, but not the US. It's a huge gray area here, and varies by state. We also have extremely lax traffic enforcement.

However, I'd rather people ride those than a gas scooter, motorcycle or car any day.

Also, I would love to have more cycleways. They are very limited here, although our city has built a few miles of them over the past 20 years.