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There are a lot of western narratives about the June 4th incident that are atrocity propaganda contradicted by western reporting at the time of the incident
The incident?
The June 4th incident is what it is called in mainland China.
What what is called?
Oh fuck he is trying to make me say "tiananmen square massacre" now Xi is going to personally come to my house and eat all my grain with his giant spoon.
Or maybe I say June 4th incident because it didn't happen in tiananmen square and massacre isn't the right word for it, considering it was armed PLA vs western armed protestors with around equal casualties before it ended.
No, I was just trying to drag out of you how you see the incident without priming the pump. How does one minimize the killing of hundreds of unarmed students? I knew people like you existed, I just never had the opportunity to witness someone actually do it, and I was curious how it's done.
You roll 20 additional days into it as a buffer, and count injuries as equivalent to murders, and let them happen anywhere.
It can't be the "Tiananmen Square Massacre" for you because then couldn't draw in PLA members who had heart attacks and died elsewhere that day because they weren't at the square. You need to create a context where they're all the same thing and the geography of place really damages the ability to do that.
You just dilute a massacre to make it not a massacre by expanding the time and places. Super interesting. It's a distinctly different approach to propegands than you'd typically see in the west or Russia.
You're making a lot of false assumptions here that lead me to believe that this is not actually, as you claim, your first time encountering this viewpoint, and your intention isn't to learn or honestly engage but to discredit and spread your own dishonest talking points.
Oh, no, I'm absolutely not trying to engage as if this person is holding the objective truth because they aren't. I'm not either. They just have had a different brainwashing than most so I'm interested in the flavour. I'm interested in hearing their views, fact checking them, and using that to reverse engineer the intiontions of those who are feeding them a moral rationalization.
"What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes" - Chai Ling
But they didn't get it, so they had to exaggerate armed skirmishes into "they machinegunned sitting student protestors"
You can literally find photos of protestors posing with burnt and mutilated bodies of PLA soldiers