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[–] embed_me@programming.dev 21 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Maybe I'm too entrenched in FOSS political vision, but why devote these tremendous efforts to improve products of a company like Apple. I don't understand the motivation behind Asahi linux, except "just because it can be done" ie academic purpose

[–] dwraf_of_ignorance@programming.dev 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not improving it cause apple can use it. It's improving cause people can use it even after apple is not supporting it or don't like apple's OS.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

x86 isn't open either and a lot of people like the M1's efficiency (I'm an Asahi Linux user)

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is the battery life on Asahi Linux compared to MacOS?

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A lot of people say it's good although personally it hasn't been a huge improvement for me, I'm guessing there's certain hardware-software integration in macOS and software optimizations that contributes to the battery life that isn't happening in Linux. It's dying less quickly than my HP laptop though. I also tend to not close stuff so that may be a problem.

[–] skulbuny@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

It saves ewaste. In 6 years, will macOS still be supported on these machines? Maybe. Will an open source distro be supported? If it's still thriving, yeah.

[–] Treeniks@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Absolutely nothing comes close to the thinness and lightness, combined with battery and performance of my M2 Air. And that's not to mention that Apple's touchpads are still so far ahead of everyone else that I'd like to laugh about it, but it's too embarrassing for that. It's not like I'm not aware of the linux/windows alternatives, it's that there simply are no alternatives...I'd rather deal with Apple's shit software instead of everyone else's subpar hardware, because software is changeable.

Also, since the Asahi team actually knows what they're doing, it turns out that their linux support on Apple Silicon is often better in a lot of ways than most windows-centric laptops. They take a long time to support certain hardware capabilities, but once they do you can be sure that it works flawlessly. Can't say the same about any other laptop I owned before (although Framework, System 76 and Tuxedo laptops are probably good in that regard).

Also, while the keyboard on my Dell XPS broke a whopping 5 times in the last few years, the Macbook Air has yet to show any signs of wear. The reason I got a Macbook is because I need to get work done and need a reliable machine for that. And what can I say, my god has it ever been reliable.

[–] villainy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Thank you for detailing this. I'm no fan of OSX or Apple the company but the quality of their laptop hardware is undeniable. They're really good at it.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In my field of work, I'm stuck with the Apple ecosystem anyway. So having the chance to run linux on my M1 for all my personnal project is awesome. Also, as much as I hate Apple, those computers are just absolute beast in term of processing power, battery and design.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And longevity. I have a 2011 MBP thats now running Debian and is still a tank. I’ve had two MacBooks since I got it but the damn thing refuses to die.

My daily laptop is an M2 Air which is ridiculously powerful for my needs, so when Apple drop OS support for it I’ll put Asahi on it and keep it trucking until the wheels fall off.

And that 2011 will still be going.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yep, same. My 2012 mb is on Mint and it still blows away most of the modern PC laptops sub 500$ . Pre 2016 intel MB are amazing machines.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I hate macOS therefor it’s useful cause I like to tinker. And make things do things.