this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2024
543 points (98.1% liked)

196

16484 readers
1780 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] julianh@lemm.ee 126 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Its pretty much up to the developer. You can have no DRM and not even require steam to be open, or you can make your game unplayable.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 67 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Imo Steam should tell people whether or not a game actually requires Steam (or another form of DRM) to run. I know they already do it for things like Denuvo, but they should also note if the game actually uses Steam as DRM or if the game can be launched without it.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah that would be nice.

[–] Klaymore@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

PCGamingWiki has that info for most titles I believe. It would be nice to see it in Steam though.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Steam DRM isn't even really DRM in the traditional sense and it's very easy to put games into a program or use an injected/patched .dll to bypass the Steam Launch check. It's annoying sure but it's not something that people should be concerned about.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Afaik, Steam only sells licences.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Steam sells DRM-free games too, you can download them and then uninstall Steam and they will work. In this case though, on top of purchasing the game, you are buying a license to download updates for it through Steam. It's a developer decision.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

DRM is orthagonal to ownership

[–] warm@kbin.earth 20 points 1 month ago

I do not disagree?

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You still aren't "purchasing" it.

For example, you don't have right of resale the same way you would with physical goods. You're buying a license to the game for personal use, regardless, you just don't have DRM limiting your access.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 11 points 1 month ago

Well that's just digital goods, not Steam specifically.

You do get all the files for the game, that will work for as long as the OS will run them, with or without Steam (this is as close as you can come to ownership for software). Rather than a license to use them files, which become useless if you don't run the game through Steam.