OnceUponATime

Especially with the movie, arguably I think Regina’s evil queen is WITHOUT A DOUBT the best evil queen out there save for the original animated for obvious different reasons,

I still can’t stop thinking about how Peter Pan was woven in-

Cinderella has Drew Barrymore’s Ever After and Brandy’s Roger’s and hammersteins Cinderella with Whitney Houston

Mulan animated will never be topped-

What other best adaptations do you think there are/what do you think of this version of Snow compared to others?

It's been a while since I watched, so maybe they explained it, but if he's so powerful why couldn't he just kill them while they slept or something?

He wanted Henry to think they abandoned him, and what better way than to kill them, and make sure they never come for him?

I haven’t seen this show in like ten years, so this is my first re-watch (second time seeing it) and I’m at the end of season 5 and I honestly just forgot how many women this man has bagged lol

And I know there’s more … 🤣😭

that Baelfire was to become Henry's father?

Isn't he supposed to see everything? He knew about Emma and as I recall he knows about Henry - like who he is and how important he is?

How come he didn't know Baelfire would have a child with the saviour?

I accept the creators' attempt to portray Rumple as a coward... but I don't like the examples they show.

First: Rumple cries all the time as a child. According to the creators, it's because he's a coward who's always afraid... but fuck! He's just a child! His father is always at the pub and his mother abandoned him. No wonder he's afraid.

Second: Rumple got maimed in the war and that's supposed to be a sign of cowardice. But someone on reddit wrote that Rumple maimed himself to be with his son. And I think the same thing. What's cowardly about a man wanting to see his child grow up? Do you know what I would give to have a father like Rumple? One who would be willing to maim himself just to protect me? If that's cowardice, then I guess I don't know the meaning of the word.

Third: When Rumple wasn't dark one and his wife ran off with Hook. Hook said he'd give her back to him if he fought him with swords. But Rumple never held a sword and Hook looked (and even was) experienced. So it was a pre-planned fight. He tried to at least beg Hook but he sent him to the barn saying he was a coward because he didn't fight for his wife.

And now please explain to me what kind of logic is it that I, as an experienced swordsman and captain, challenge a guy to a duel who has obviously only heard of swords but never held one and who is limping and can barely stand, and I, who am as agile as a doe, call him a coward after he refuses to fight me? Rumple refused to fight because he knew it was a lost battle. I don't think there's anything cowardly about that, it just happened to be smart. Hook was a coward when he challenged a man who could barely stand to a duel, and especially when he told David that he didn't beat up disabled people.

And may I also point out that this coward was willing to go beg for mercy for his wife? the woman who had been humiliating him all this time?

If he was really that big of a coward, he wouldn't have gone there at all.

And fourth: the Hordor thing. I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about.

The creators tried to make us feel like Rumple was such a coward that he would kiss that idiot Hordor's shoe in front of his son. But you know what? Rumple is great in this scene. The guy humbled himself to protect his son. He was willing to give up his own dignity for him.

Okay. You don't have to agree with me. Feel free to write back and tell me I'm stupid, and that all of this is cowardice, and that I'm just giving him credit he doesn't deserve, but you know what? I'll stand my ground. As I wrote, I don't mind the creators' idea of ​​making Rumple a coward. I mind the examples they showed us.

S1 they were cursed, and S2 there was magic in town they and a lot of family drama that got some quality (unlike the Emma- Snow-Malefcient drama) so all fitted her character. Emma in later seasons feels off, after Zelena arrival I always had the feeling she should just break the 4th wall and say "I shouldn't be here".

I'm sure someone else has voiced an opinion about this but it bugs me to NO end that Emma continues trying to run away from Storybrooke and uses Henry's lack of memories as an excuse.

Ignoring the fact that Regina is his mother too and Emma doesn't muster up the courage to tell her, this is Henry's family and if he had his memories, he would want to stay.

Emma is acting completely selfishly, all she wants is to run from magic and her responsibility which I get but to hurt EVERYONE in the process and to hide behind "it's not safe for Henry" is kind of disgusting to me.

I love Emma and I want to side with her because I get where she's coming from, generally, but I can't on this one.

She shows no sympathy for Hook, her parents, Regina, or anyone else she's effectively abandoning and it's so weird to me that she would be so selfish.

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He's so annoying and so full of himself. I honestly can't stand him when he's on screen.

I honestly would have preferred Emma to have stayed single than to have him as a boyfriend.

The insinuation that he got women drunk to sleep with them was also pretty disgusting.

He would've died a hero, and we wouldn't have had all this back and forth between him and Belle, and back and forth villain arc (one of the most outrageous parts of season 5 is when he gets his dark one powers again, even though he's been good the whole season 🙄🙄)

They could've still had him appear in flashbacks, but honestly that would've been a lot more impactful and would've challenged the writers to give Belle actual good storylines and have her be independent of Rumple.

When Once Upon a Time introduced Elsa and Anna in Season 4, | was excited to see how the show would bring them to life.

But one thing that really stood out to me (in a bad way) was their costumes—they looked more like store-bought Halloween costumes than real, lived-in outfits.

Elsa's dress, for example, was practically identical to the Frozen movie version, but the fabric looked cheap and too shiny, almost like plastic.

It didn’t have the intricate details or layered textures that would make it feel like an actual royal gown.

Anna’s outfit had the same problem—it was a near-perfect replica of her animated look, but it felt too clean and artificial, lacking the depth or realism that Once Upon a Time usually puts into its costumes.

Compared to other characters in the show, like Regina or Rumpel who had elaborate and textured outfits, Elsa and Anna's costumes felt like they were straight out of a Halloween catalog.

I wish the show had taken more creative liberties to make their outfits feel more grounded in the OUAT universe instead of just copying the animated designs.

What do you think?

Did their costumes take you out of the immersion, or did you like how faithful they were to the movie?

Would you have preferred a more unique take on their outfits?

Hi! I'm currently on a OUAT rewatch after a long time, and I'm wondering something:

The curse prevented the trapped characters from aging, right?

So the kids (like Hansel and Gretel) were still kids after 29 years of being on storybrook.

Henry arrives as a baby 11 years before the first season, during these 11 years, and before he finds the book, we can understand that he already saw strange things in the behavior of the residents, for example: anyone who tried to leave the city would get hurt, no one visited the city, the residents have no sense of time and don't know things about their past.

The lack of aging of classmates was certainly another indication. All of this culminated in Henry easily believing that the book was real.

However, what if Emma hadn't stayed in Storybrook (or if Henry never found her in the first place)?

Time would pass, Henry would grow up, become a teenager and then an adult and everyone, including the children he studied with, would remain exactly the same.

What would Regina have done about it?

She was barely able to convince a 11yo that she was not lying, imagine a 16yo or 20yo. Didn't she imagine this when she adopted Henry?

Would Henry eventually be affected by the Dark Curse and would he somehow stop aging and enter the " mental fog" that the other characters live in?

I know that everything happened as it was supposed to, and we can imagine that in all realities and universes Henry always finds Emma and she always breaks the Curse but that's just something I was wondering.

Sorry if it's hard to read, English is not my first language.

I recently made a post commenting on Henry being trapped in a "time loop" and what would happen if Emma didn’t break the curse. He would grow up and see everyone with the same age and kinda go mad (What would have happened to Henry if Emma hadn't shown up?.

Anyway, while I was rewatching the first season—something I’ve done multiple times—this time, one thing bothered me more than anything: Why does Henry hate Regina so much? Think about it—your child, whom you adopted and raised for the past 11 years, starts reading a random book, believes you’re the villain from the story, and overnight starts hating you, openly saying you’re evil, that you don’t love him, that you’re cruel, etc. What made me question this even more is that—it makes sense for Henry to believe in the book so easily (as I mentioned in my other post), but his hatred toward Regina seems a bit exaggerated.

Then, I understood. Henry was literally trapped in a time loop, and NO ONE believed him. In the second season, we see Regina’s first years in Storybrooke, enjoying her victory until the repetitive days start to frustrate her. Now, imagine Henry—a child—growing up in that. Every day (or every week or month) having the same lessons at school, the same conversations with people, asking others about their lives and being met with, "um... huh... I don’t remember," and a shrug. We see that Henry is a curious, smart, and precocious boy, imagine how strange and borderline insane he must have felt watching all of this happening!!

Now, imagine him confiding (or questioning) this to his mother—telling her how weird the people in town are, how they don’t seem to act normally or how they repeat theirs days, only for her to dismiss him, tell him he’s crazy, that he needs a dose of reality, and send him to therapy, just to hear, once again, that he’s delusional, needs to stop lying, and accept that he’s wrong.

I understand why Henry resents Regina, and after he believed in the book and saw all the horrible things she had done before, it’s understandable why he thought she didn’t truly love him. He believed she wasn’t capable of love, and he also believed that if she truly loved him, she wouldn’t lie to him or make him feel like he was insane.

Rewatching the first season, Henry’s comments about his mother irritated me deeply, but I understand that he was just a kid. An 11-year-old child, lonely, feeling rejected, and desperately wanting someone to believe him.

Anyway, this is more of a reflection post than a discussion one. Thank you if you read all of this, and let me know what you think!

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I'm rewatching this show, and I can't stop laughing.

Some of the funniest stuff is whenever Rumple beats the crap out of people with his cane, lolz and just how hardcore and intimidating he is with a disability, is literally inspiring.

He was never truly a coward, imho and the way he hands people their asses with his cane over and over without ever using an ounce of magic and having a fricking limp to boot, is a testament to that.

Also, the dynamics and dialog between the cast in the Dr. Frankenstein episodes had me dying and Hook's constant sexual innuendo, omg, hah-hah.

There's more I'm sure but that's all I can think of for now, lol.

What I love about this show is despite the outrageous plots and never ending problems, it still had value in it.

Out of all the themes and lessons tackled in the series, what was the one that stuck with you the most?

For me, its that "evil isn't born, its made".

This has been a constant with almost every villain. Regina and Rumple most especially. It was important to show that some of the people who enact terror were once good too- most of the time, victims.

It doesn't justify all of their actions later on but on some level, it shows what could happen if someone in the dark isn't guided, shown hope, or offered help by those capable.

Kind of what happens in real life too.

As a bonus, never underestimate someone's anger.

A small thing to you, could be their entire life to them.

We don't know if it's their final straw, so it's important to be kind as much as we can.