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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, "Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND."

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[–] Dr_pepper_spray@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (23 children)

In the United States, I don't know how you'd accomplish this. It would be impossible for almost all rural neighborhoods unless we're going to build a grocery store within walking distance of most homes.

This is one of those liberal (I rarely leave my home) notions whose heart is in the right place but is ultimately stupid.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I live in a small walkable city in the Netherlands. I ride the bus, the train and my bicycle. I still own a car since those other transport modes don’t cover every need I have. And car sharing is non existent in my town.

[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think owning a car is necessarily a problem. For me FuckCars mostly means "fuck using a car unless you have to", which means using a car for those kind of commutes that people do every day or very often. Go to your workplace, school or university, go shop groceries...

There will be other context where you are going to need a car. Your holidays, for one. It's not a problem in my book. And of course it also applies to a lesser extent to folks living in the countryside, where it's inherently more difficult and expensive to link communities to transit. Our main concern should be ridding cities of cars and you guys in the Netherlands are already doing an amazing work on that front in many places.

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[–] foothillbilly@lemmings.world 2 points 5 months ago

I heartily agree, but I'm 67 years old and society is slower than the Antarctic melt. Oh, wait, that's not slow.

[–] t_jpeg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What I'm saying is even if that car was part of a network of attachable cars, the maintenance of the infrastructure needed to accomodate those cars is still way more expensive. This is not even getting into the discussion that if you have enough cars to need a highway (let alone enough to start attaching self-driving cars to each other), a train is more feasible. Period.

I will agree with you that the train is not the be all and end all. Good bike infrastructure (separated bike lanes that are connected through a planned network), light rail/trams and buses all have their place. What I disagree is the use of cars in urban and suburban centers/ corridors. There is no need. The only people that should use private vehicles are delivery vehicles, emergency vehicles, and those that live in impossibly remote areas that are very much disconnected from urban centers - areas that are hardly surrounded by a self-sustaining community.

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