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Do you miss phones with replaceable batteries? By 2027, you won't anymore because, by law, almost every smartphone will have them again.

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[–] sneezy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember that consumers expect certain things from smartphones nowadays, which will mean that OEMs can’t just go back to the old way of doing things. An IP68 rating would be very difficult to obtain while still offering a premium-feeling device with an easily replaceable battery, for example. These are hurdles OEMs will need to get over to be in compliance.

this is straight-up BS. there were many phones with ip68 and user-replacable batteries back when sealing the battery in a phone was frowned upon. not all but many.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The term "premium-feeling" does a lot of heavy lifting in that paragraph, one might almost say that it's a bit subjective.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it would be pretty premium if I could have a spare battery on the charger for a quick swap rather than relying on a cable to charge my phone.

[–] straF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Move over 2010. Who uses a cable?

[–] sumofchemicals@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I do? And most people I know?

[–] calvinklein97@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am curious how Apple will get around that this time. I’m almost sure this will be as funny as the whole story about the USB-C cables

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Super capacitor instead of battery. lol

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Producers got away with going to non-replaceable batteries because "most" people replace their phone before the battery wears out. Only a portion of consumers have a problem with it.

I'm sure there's a few of us that can comfortably get six years off a phone. In fact the phone I'm currently using is coming up on three years. I could probably get another three years out of it, but I'm going to have to replace it soon because of battery wear.

Non-replaceable batteries are bad for the consumer and bad for the environment. It forces obsolescence putting more financial strain on consumers and increases environmental impact with higher production and waste.

A phone replaced before three years could be sold second hand with a battery replacement. Otherwise consumers could keep a phone twice as long. So they're basically doubling the rate of production and waste to squeeze as much money as possible out of the consumer. Then there's zero regard for the environment. But you know that's typical of how corporations do business, rape the Earth, screw the consumer. We have to keep a leash on these guys.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I do agree that we need more modular phones, laptops, etc. having a replaceable battery would prevent phones to be fully water proof.

But I do agree with you, I have a 2-year old phone and I already experience the battery degradation. I would most likely use this phone for another year, max two, but then would be pissed by how often I need to charge it and start looking into purchasing a new one.

Planned obsolescence is definitely a thing that enriches corporations

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think an actual waterproof phone even exists. They're water resistant.

My Samsung Galaxy XCover 6Pro has a removable battery (and a headphone jack) and it's ip68 rated. You wouldn't be able to tell from the outside that the back cover comes off.

[–] Deelala0516@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just hope the battery doesn't cost as much as a new phone would.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The EU almost forced the phone industry to start using standardised/interchangeable batteries.

If the batteries cost as much as a new phone, they'll reconsider that decision.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so dumb that a standard hasn't been developed yet. Like AA/C/D, 18650 batteries, etc. They could have modular batteries with different sizes and capacities that work interchangeably.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

It took forty years for aa batteries to become a standard. They were a trademark type by I think everready.

[–] eggshappedegg@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not so much the batteries for me but the USB C port that has been my main issue and that damn humidity/water sensor that thinks that I've dipped my phone in water when I haven't

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's part of the problem I have with this. Most electronics life cycle is gone before or around the time the battery is gone. Only people that abuse the batteries by over charging / full draining typically benefit from replacement batteries. -And this just mostly needs awareness.

[–] WireOwl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority of batteries operated devices are stuff that in its use is going to be "abused". The hell is the harm in letting people switch out a fucking battery if that's the issue. Companies won't let people switch batteries out so they are being made. Apple have been fighting tooth and nail over repair shops

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

You use Apple? lol.