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I'm considering getting Google Fiber for internet service, because it's about to become available in my area.

Are the Google Fiber admins cool with filesharing protocols?

Or do they strangle traffic, ban people for filesharing, etc?

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[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 92 points 8 months ago (2 children)

DMCA applies to all ISPs in the US, Google will forward notices just like any other isp. In theory they could ban you per terms of service, in practice they probably won't bother.

A VPN is $5 a month, and you'll never have to worry about even getting the notices, but I'm sure you already knew that.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To add to this, you might as well set up a VPN at the router level for your entire house because Google's whole business model is surveillance and advertisements, so they're 100% going to collect all of the data coming and going.

[–] e922857@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago

Would you rather have the VPN spy on you?

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As I said in another comment. At one point in time I'm fairly certain that they were round filing any dmca notices but that could have changed. I know for a fact that spectrum forwards them (because I've gotten a few over the past few years). I now pay for a seedbox and I use resilio sync to make moving them to my nas mostly hands off.

[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

2 issues I have with this:

  1. Google is one of the biggest spy-ware companies out there
  2. Due to 1. I would not be suprised if they participate in Harvest now, decrpyt later
    (regarding users who think they will be safe under a VPN)

I'd consider taking another ISP,
you know, just one who is not known for using you as a product and shoving spyware into every nook and cranny they can find..

[–] Bristle1744@lemmy.today 23 points 8 months ago

A private company is not storing petabytes of encrypted data on the chance they might turn a profit with that information later. They can't even turn a profit with the useful petabytes of videos they have on YouTube. I can rest assured that every CEO is trying to get the next round of stock buy backs going.

The government totally would harvest petabytes of encrypted data, but they're not revealing their spy program because you want to see muscle orgys. At least until a more religious government is formed.

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

While true, the alternatives available to 90% of the country may be much worse.

Honestly I thought Google had stopped rolling out fiber.

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Rolling out, yes. Everyone that is already covered in one of their locations doesn't lose service because they're no longer expanding to new neighborhoods. Likewise, moving into one of those neighborhoods makes you a potential customer.

[–] daddybutter@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I had GFiber for a bit and had no issues with torrenting via private trackers and no VPN.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 11 points 8 months ago

Seems OK with BT in the sense they do not throttle traffic etc. Using basic prevention measures like private trackers and port randomization will get you far here. If you are using public torrent sites I would probably use a seedbox or torrent friendly VPS host... Then your ISP will only see SSH traffic from your machine to the box.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Iirc, at one point I believe they were round filing any dmca requests. What I would suggest is use Proton or another vpn that has settings for this type of traffic. I don't remember seeing anything about them throttling non pirated files transferred over those protocols but I haven't paid attention to them in years because I moved away from the area they were rolling out.

[–] tarmarbar@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What does round filing dmca requests mean?

[–] wccrawford@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

"round file" is a cute name for a garbage can.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] zabadoh@ani.social 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Limewire is gone, but ED2K is very much alive, and pretty darned good for finding older files.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 6 points 8 months ago

Wait til he finds out that people still use IRC and Usenet for filesharing too...

[–] antipiratgruppen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Good to hear that ed2k is still alive! It's been ages since I've been there. Any advice for the best ed2k experience in 2024?

As we're talking p2p clients here, I have to mention soulseek. It changed my life! It's especially excellent for lossless and rare music, but various other types of media can be found there too. There are soulseek clients for most OS's, including slskd to be selfhosted and accessed through a webui as well as graphical desktop clients, where I believe Nicotine+ is a popular choice.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I still run official eMule on Windows 10, even though it hasn't been updated in 13 years.

I understand that aMule, a fork of xMule, has relatively active development, and was last updated 2 years ago.

🐎〰️💨 I'll be back!