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TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — China accused the United States of turning Taiwan into an “ammunition depot” after the White House announced a $345 million military aid package for Taipei, and the self-ruled island said Sunday it tracked six Chinese navy ships in waters off its shores.

China’s Taiwan Affairs Office issued a statement late Saturday opposing the military aid to Taiwan, which China claims as its own territory.

“No matter how much of the ordinary people’s taxpayer money the ... Taiwanese separatist forces spend, no matter how many U.S. weapons, it will not shake our resolve to solve the Taiwan problem. Or shake our firm will to realize the reunification of our motherland,” said Chen Binhua, a spokesperson for the Taiwan Affairs Office.

“Their actions are turning Taiwan into a powder keg and ammunition depot, aggravating the threat of war in the Taiwan Strait,” the statement said.

China’s People’s Liberation Army has increased its military maneuvers in recent years aimed at Taiwan, sending fighter jets and warships to circle the island.

On Sunday, Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said it tracked six Chinese navy ships near the island.

Taiwan’s ruling administration, led by the Democratic Progressive Party, has stepped up its weapons purchases from the U.S. as part of a deterrence strategy against a Chinese invasion.

China and Taiwan split amid civil war in 1949, and Taiwan has never been governed by China’s ruling Communist Party.

Unlike previous military purchases, the latest batch of aid is part of a presidential authority approved by the U.S. Congress last year to draw weapons from current U.S. military stockpiles — so Taiwan will not have to wait for military production and sales.

While Taiwan has purchased $19 billion worth of weaponry, much of it has yet to be delivered to Taiwan. Washington will send man-portable air defense systems, intelligence and surveillance capabilities, firearms and missiles to Taiwan.

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[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 96 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The island is already unified, they very clearly reject the CCPs authoritarian, violent demands.

Fuck the CCP, Taiwan is a free country.

[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was gonna say, loving the use of the word “unify”. I also feel like the AP could have editorialized just a bit at least for the headline and maybe gone with something more along the lines of “reclaim”.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 81 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ah yes, giving military aid to Taiwan is turning it into a powder keg and aggravating the threat of war. Firing missile into the ocean all around Taiwan is just a calm and rational thing to do to help ease tensions in the region.

Fuck off CCP.

[–] TheDeadGuy@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yeah Taiwan has had independence far too long for them to accept being swept into the Chinese system.

A lot of hypocritical trolling in this thread. Tankie lemmy?

[–] gornar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

And look what happened yo Hong Kong after "promises" anyway! A reasonable person would expect the same treatment or worse for Taiwan

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

They were never really “dependent” to begin with. It was a split, and Taiwan is what remains of the OG Chinese Government. They’re kind of MORE legit that the CCP.

[–] UlrikHD@programming.dev 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Taiwan would never attack China, the only way a war between China and Taiwan happens is if China invades Taiwan.

China saying this increases the "risk" of war is nothing but doublespeak.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

If anything decreases the risk of War as in it decreases the likelihood China will do anything.

Them complaining about it is actually a sign of that the determined is working.

[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Hey, CCP! You mean 'steal' the island.

[–] jaschen@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ask Putin how the "fuck around" is doing for his country?

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They won’t do anything. The Chinese government is terrified by Taiwan. So sadly the Russians are the only ones who enter the „finding out“.

[–] Zaktor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So sadly the Russians are the only ones who enter the „finding out“.

Counterpoint: It's not sad that there isn't going to be a war, whether or not it might be humiliating to an authoritarian regime.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe all the dead Chinese soldiers will be a deterrent too them

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

So "unify" is the new "rape and pillage"?

[–] Mousebulb@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago
[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Unify the island" says west Tawain. Should it read "Unity with the island?"

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the island country of Taiwan is already united, they don't want a CCP invasion.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If course they say that, they don't want aid going to Tiwan, so make people think it won't help. You can't rely on an opposing parties appraisal of what it's response is going to be, since they have massive insensitive to bluff.

Edit: here's the population pyramid, doesn't look very pyramidal

China population over time

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

doesn’t look very pyramidal

What it says to me is "China has a decade or so left before they won't have the manpower to attempt an invasion".

That to me, is more worrying than reassuring.

[–] Risk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Big yikes on that pyramid. Please could you share where you got it from?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Risk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks. China looks like it might have a big problem on its hands with that large volume of young men without partners.

[–] Zengen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This is a very old blood feud. Taiwan's government is the former government of mainland China (the republic of China) prior to 1949 communist civil war. The ROC ended the qing dynasty, the longest monarchic dynasty in Chinese history and instituted democracy. When the communists took over the republic of chinas leadership were basically fled and the country and established Taiwan. To the CCP Taiwanistill represents the republic of China, and just like north and south Korea, the CCP is still at war with the republic of China (Taiwan).

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Get me Dennis Reynolds! We need to get the gang on this “Taiwan Problem.”

age old fight over land