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[–] somePotato@sh.itjust.works 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's 0,0058 billions.

Barely over half percent of a billion.

With 5.8 million you're richer than 99% of Americans, and it takes 172 times that to reach a billion.

Just to put it in perspective how stupidly rich a billionaire is, and how cruel it is that they exploit everyone else to make that pointlessly huge pile of money even more pointlessly huge.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

In the US, all it takes is one major competing illness and that person is right back to zero.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

I'll definitely be there soon! Then people like me better watch their step!

/s

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Paywalled. I’m curious how they calculate net.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

The same way everyone does. Assets minus liabilities.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

~$6 Million net worth is not as much as you think. It is not enough to stop working. One major illness (in the US) for you or your spouse and a big chunk of it goes away. If the illness leaves the main household earner unable to continue to earn, y'all fucked.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

$6M is most certainly enough to stop working for the majority of people. Even a modest 3% return on your $6M is $180,000 per year. Are you telling me that you can't live on $180k per year?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I definitely should have left my original first line in there before posting the comment.

Net worth ≠ CASH.

Many years ago I was given a met worth of $1.5mil and the reality was that I was drowning in debt and every asset that I "owned" was financed, so I actually didn't own it. Net worth is make believe, just ask Trump.

When I finally got out of debt I properly owned a $250k house, $16k worth of used cars (which rapidly depreciate daily) and about $20k in cash. Realistically, I was worth close to $100k when I was given the $1.5mil valuation.

Here is an example. I owned a $125k (msrp) sports car. It was valued at $125k even though it was already a year old. I put zero down and was in fact upside down on it (I was young and stupid). Technically, that should be a negative against my net worth but UBS credited it as the cars original MSRP to my valuation. Bankers are incentivised to do this because it allows them to lend you money and load you up with debt you have no business having.

EDIT: Typos

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then you didn't have a NET worth of $1.5m, you had a gross value of $1.5m. net worth is assets minus liabilities. Liabilities include things such as loans and credit card debt. But you're right, having a net worth of $6M doesn't mean they have $6M cash. That's a valid point.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I fully agree, and so does my finance degree, and yet that's the bullshit UBS did and I suspect most banks do when valuating people. I was shocked, but they wanted my business.

Here is another example. I sold the house I bought for $250k. Before I sold it it was being valued by my banks at $1mil+ by using area comps, except that my home was old and modest and the comps were new builds after the old neighborhood homes were demolished. Actual sales price was $475k of which I netted less than $450k. That's over $500k worth of bullshit valuation. Don't even get me started on art, watches, and jewelry.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't even get me started on art, watches, and jewelry.

Right? Sure they're valued at whatever, but who are you going to get to actually pay that much without a storefront to sell it for you?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The old "get it valuated by a paid expert then donate it to a museum for a tax break" trick.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I doubt the museum is interested in my Citizen Eco Drive watch. Haha!