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[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No. What kind of crazy shit is this?
Income tax is one of the only tools that could be used to combat inequality

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You must not understand how the rich make money. Unfortunate, hopefully you learn some day.

[–] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you're not really asking if your plan makes sense, you're trying to force what you think on others. You'll learn one day.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

I'm not forcing anything on anyone, I'm just bringing up things they don't like to hear.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Here, if you'd actually like to learn why income tax doesn't work and why it disproportionately impacts the poorest workers: https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Income tax and senate are important.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the Senate and giving representation unequally.

Why the fuck do CA and WY get the same representation in the Senate other than because some old slave owners pitched a fit about not having power over more populated states.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is why the House exists.

some old slave owners pitched a fit about not having power over more populated states.

You are aware that when Congress as a whole was established, everyone owned slaves. Everyone.

The House prevents all of the red states from getting together and patently overruling California.

The Senate prevents the entire country being ruled by California.

Only through striking balance through both checks can a law that impacts everyone be advanced.

The system is build the way it is built for a reason.

California can pass all the state legislation it wants. It needs to get a bill through both house and senate to impose their will on the other 49 states.

If anything, the idea of the House of Representatives at a FEDERAL level is the stupid one.

If we got rid of the Senate, we should just change the name of the country to The United State of California.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're literally arguing that people shouldn't get equal representation because you think land votes.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm literally not.

I'm saying checks and balances should exist because we are a country of states with different environments, different hardships, and different cultures, not a country of Californians.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Checks and balances that give inequality. Lol

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Okay, one more go at trying to teach Civics 101 to the one who cant walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.

So 1 state having all the power is equality?

In your mind, equal = Californian?

1 large homogenized (probably too big a world for you, but you can google) population has the right to rule over every other population?

49 groups of people get overruled because 1 of the groups has more people?

That is why checks and balances are in place. To ensure EVERYONE gets representation, not just one powerful group.

Each state does have States rights though, so they can do as they please with their group. Unless it is something that has successfully made it through checks and balances to be enforced on the nation as a whole.

EVERYONE should be represented at the Federal level, not just the majority group.

With your throwing around of the topic of slavery earlier in the conversation, I'd think you would be for that.

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[–] TheFerrango@lemmy.basedcount.com -3 points 10 months ago

VAT is theft

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