Edit: new and improved image, now with 100% less support! Used my expert photo editing skills to change "supporting" to say "voting for"
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I'm going to copy /u/kiniz0r's comment from a few months ago because I think it's extremely perceptive and accurate:
People have a fucked-up understanding of voting in the US. You are not voting for the person you agree with. You are voting for the person you’d rather negotiate with.
If you actually care beyond the aesthetics of whether you did the cool thing or not, you have to think about the function of what you’re doing and not just whether it feels good.
Your political choices shouldn't be performative, they should be as effective as possible in the present.
You do the best you can with what you have.
My favorite analogy is that voting is like taking the bus, just because it doesn't drop you off in front of your house, doesn't mean you're better off walking.
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Idk why people think negotiation starts after voting happens
We're negotiating right now, this is the negotiation.
Absolutely, but the negotiation also continues after the voting happens, so it's probably worthwhile to vote for someone who can be negotiated with.
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No no, see the best time to negotiate is after you've already given someone everything they want from you. This totally isn't a textbook recipe for being taken advantage of. /s
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That’s the nice thing about the two political party system: Who else are you going to vote for? Abstain or third party? You’d run the risk of having democracy end, when the other party wins, and getting thrown into a camp for your “Unamerican” beliefs.
You understand the president you vote for is only part of this right? We could elect Bernie and we still wouldn't have healthcare in 4 years without a blue congress.
What is Biden supposed to have done in the last 4 years about healthcare on his own? The changes on requirements for prior authorizations is a big help for many but things like that are about as much as he can do without Congress.
You understand the president you vote for is only part of this right?
I'll point you to Henry Cuellar down in the Texas Valley. He's one of the most consistently right-wing Democrats in the House, he's in a Safe Dem seat and has been since the district was packed with Dem voters during the 2006 Tom DeLay lead redistricting ratfuck, and every time a progressive primary opponent sticks a head up he gets millions of dollars in party to support to bail him out.
This is the fundamental struggle with "You just have to support Biden and then figure shit out downstream". Guys like Biden and Clinton and even Kerry and Gore have created this perpetual undercurrent of conservativism in the party, such that every election becomes a "Bad Democrat v Worse Republican" all up and down the ballot election after election after election.
And because they can command these enormous sums of money and vast media influence campaigns from their position as leaders of the party, we keep getting these turds jammed up in our plumbing for decades - Manchins and Sinemas and Feinsteins and Gillibrands - who actively undermine everything in the official party platform with their concern trolling.
Even if Biden wins, another four years of a glorified insurance lobbyist who gave Strom Thurmond's fucking eulogy is not going to benefit anyone young, colored, or queer who still cling to faith in the party. He and his team are going to keep putting up these turds like Merrick Garland and Anthony Blinken in the bureaucracy and backing a team of mummies for the next Congressional election and doing everything they can to kneecap anyone under 40 with the gall to challenge someone in a primary.
I'd fuck me?
I'll go further: actually bothering to talk about some of the positive things that happened under his presidency will be necessary for him to win.
If progressives, leftists, antifascists, etc. can only manage to offer a "I guess he's not a literal pile of shit so maybe I'll consider holding my nose and voting," there's no permission structure for Enlightened Centrists™, Never-Trumpers, or even tired Democrats, to turn out. Trump voters are mad as hell. Lots of them really think the election was stolen from him. They're going to turn out.
We need more than holding your nose.
The child tax credit cut child poverty by possibly as much as 46%. Biden's campaigning on bringing it back to stimulus levels. That's money in the pockets of people who need it the most.
Biden tried to forgive student loan debt. Conservative judges blocked him. Re-elect him so he can keep appointing judges and finding new ways to fight against more bad decisions like this.
Biden's Inflation Reduction Act may include some of the most impactful climate policies ever enacted by any American congress since the creation of the EPA.
There are "yes, but"s for each of those points I made but my argument is simple: you don't get to make more accomplishments if you don't talk about the ones you made already.
This hasn't been a perfect administration, we've never had one. But he damn sure hasn't done nothing when it comes to some of the most important political issues of our time.
It's weird that there's been so much accomplished but so little talk about it. I only ever hear them listed at the end of a Brian Tyler Cohen video.
To me the issue stems from DNCs reluctance to whole heartedly accepting a progressive platform. They think skating by sipping progressive lite is appeasing the "moderates." When really there are no moderates left to think of. If you are even considering Trump you are full right. No question.
It's hard to give credit to a party that will trip over its own dick to compromise on every single policy.
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Shameless plug for ranked voting.
Score voting is better, but any voting system that allows you to express preference in a way that doesn't flush your ballot down the toilet is infinitely better than the garbage we have.
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Not wrong
What I like most about this meme is that it implies that supporting the Biden won't exactly lead to a good outcome for you either, but at least it's not as immediate as getting the Trump again.
Biden is the lotion you apply to soften your skin so it can, once removed, make capitalism pretty.
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Lol
I like the implication that in this scenario, the actual threat of getting the trump again is coming from the same person that's instructing to put the Biden on its skin. Also that in the end, 'it' gets made into a skin suit either way
I also like the flexibility: it could just as easily be leftists threatening the DNC with getting the trump again
If this is a bit it's absolutely perfect, 10/10
If the DNC could stop shooting themselves in the foot and blaming everyone but themselves, theyd be unstoppable.
And remember to be rational, to remain somewhat detached from the constant stream of political narratives and spins that gets thrown your way, where the positive or neutral things get ignored because that gets no click-ad revenue, everything that gets screamed at you is a distortion of reality.
Separate the garbage and the appeal to visceral reactions.
It's easier then to see that Biden and his cabinet inherited an incredible mess, is genuinely trying to clean it up, and there are no overnight miracles when the other political party constantly engages in sabotage of the gears of democracy, while a large segment of the population remains electorally apathetic and aloof.
This constant, perpetual media and social media provocation and clickbait, makes an intellect vulnerable to "divide-and-conquer" tactics, keeps him/her apathetic and aloof, while simultaneously demoralized. And the constant stream of infotainment excrement just keeps on flowing like a river during rainy season.
EDIT: To put in a nutshell, tldr:
Electoral apathy benefits republicans.
Electoral engagement benefits Democrats.
Now guess which side engages most with "divide and conquer" infotainment dumps to keep the electorate as cynical as possible.
Not the message you want to spread...
Ain't it the truth, though? Four more years of Bipartisanship With Fascists or we give you Pure Fascism.
One is rusty shitbox, the other is radioactive rusty shitbox that is also on fire.
I choose rusty shitbox every time in this situation.
Does it suck? Yeah.
Not as badly as the alternative.
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Literally going psycho mode on the 2016 strategy of shaming the voters they need rather than blaming the DNC in any meaningful way for it's lack of ability to appeal to those voters. They don't understand this has already topped out on effectiveness. Not realizing Biden won because of the pandemic in spite of this strategy is going to mark the failure and likely GOP win this year.
Sad and pathetic to see it happen this way, where the very people they need to win are the ones they target and judge harshest.
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Obviously the only solution is to vote Trump out of spite!
Cut to Buffalo Bill (GOP) wearing the DNCs skin
Edit: only one party gave us trump and to put the blame anywhere else is aggressively stupid.
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Are you asking me to be happy about voting for him or to just vote for him? I'll vote for him regardless of the R option, especially if it's Trump, but I'm sick of people acting like I'm endorsing Trump or endorsing abstaining if I say anything critical of Biden.
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God, what a glorious way to tell that truth! I really hate being in this position but there seems to only be one safe way out.
You want to change the system, I am literally 100% behind you. Until then, any registered voter that stays home is a vote for Trump. That is the greater evil...
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A clearly senile old fuck, or one where its questionable.
Can we please try younger? Just...young enough where its not a legitimate fear their mental state will start declining rapidly any day?
I doubt it but what if Trump actually gets disqualified from running? We'd have the unique opportunity of having no major opposition. Would be a prime time to pressure all the shill democrats to actually care about something, which includes Biden giving morbillions to Israel.
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It hurts because it's true.
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