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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 199 points 8 months ago (2 children)

~~clean living~~

Can't afford $16 + tip for a drink

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They mention cost of living a lot in the article. They also point out that there's way lower drug use. On top of cost of living I bet a lot of people are getting their escapism from games and Internet instead.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

drugs have also gotten more expensive :(

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

An ounce of weed is like $50 these days, a fraction of when I was a teenager. Just blaze.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Weed is cheap as hell in Michigan. I wish it was true in Illinois. I'm in Indiana, where it's illegal, but getting weed from Illinois is a 30-minute drive. However, it's much more expensive and you're limited to 14 grams as a non-state resident. Getting weed from Michigan is much, much cheaper and there's no limit, but it is a 5-hour drive through Indiana for me and I'm not driving that far back through Indiana with a shit ton of weed in my car.

[–] Mellibird@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I just buy mine online. No driving needed.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I buy online too. And then I drive to the dispensary in Illinois and pick it up. How do they get it to you if you're in a state where it's not legal?

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think the fact that almost anything might be laced with a lethal dose of fentanyl these days could also be a contributor. A lot of drugs are just white powder… makes it hard to know what’s in it in a party setting.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Always test your stash.

🌈the more you know.🌠

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They mentioned a party setting.

I don't know about you, but I'm not bringing test strips to every party, cause I'm not automatically assuming that every party will have drugs. Drugs at a party are the kind of thing that randomly shows up when you least expect it, so it's not always easy to be prepared.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Always have a Guinea pig no one will miss tagalong with you to parties

🌈The More You Know🌠

[–] AlexS@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

I bet a lot of people are getting their escapism from games and Internet instead.

More and more people are getting addicted to computer/smartphone games, porn and online gambling. Less do alcohol. Tobacco seems to be constant.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Plus entry fee. I grew up in a college town and went to the same university. There was a nightclub there (still there amazingly) that had beer for a dime after you paid the cover fee on Tuesdays. I think the entry fee was something like $5, if that.

[–] Thetimefarm@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This has to be some sort of penis based loss leader for them right? Like get the dudes sloshed on cheap beer so they'll buy pricier drinks for women they hit on. I hate to say it but that strategy would definately have worked on me when I was college age.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

It isn't a singles club type of place, so I don't think so. It has live bands. I'm guessing it doesn't have dime beer night anymore though.

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

My college town had a bar that served 25 cent PBR solo cups on thirsty Thursdays.

I still wouldn't drink them.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 122 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I'm in the "Z-lennial" group, it's mostly just the cost for me. Why would I spend $20 on 2 drinks at a bar when I can get a 12 pack for $16 and play terraria with my friends?

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

There's also the fact that games and Internet are a social option for your generation at all. Previous generations didn't even have that option the same way. Even as a millennial it wasn't nearly as accessible as it is now.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

For sure. My 8yr old plays with his friends on FaceTime and Roblox as soon as he gets up. In the winter online play is probably 75% of how they play. When the weather is better that changes to 25%.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not in the same way, but I made a lot of friends on MUDs and local BBSes in the early 90s.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Yeah there were options but they were not convenient or mainstream. When I was a kid I played online games with friends, but that involved calling them on a land line phone, logging into the Internet, which meant turning off your house phone for most people without dual phonelines, and no video call and text chat only.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Or by myself, even better!

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 months ago

If you're doing it right you should only drink water inside the club.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Got space on your server?

[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 115 points 8 months ago (1 children)

$10+ drinks is the more likely cause.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 64 points 8 months ago

We went out recently. Purchased 4 x small red wines. Plastic cups. $100. I nearly died. It's out of control.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 55 points 8 months ago (3 children)

GenX/millennial here, you ain't missing much. It's loud and impossible to meet anyone unless you're already good looking.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

eh you need to stay till the end for the garbage collection 😘

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Oh alright, you’ll do.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Also around your age (46). I didn't go to clubs to meet people, I went to clubs to drink and dance. Or see a band if it had live music.

I saw They Might Be Giants in a club. I saw P-Funk in a club. I saw King Missile in a club. I saw some fucking amazing bands, both national and regional, in clubs and I think the most expensive was P-Funk at $20.

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[–] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess it says a lot about the Lemmy demographics but it's getting really sad that every time something about nightclubs appears here, there's a whole bunch of people explaining why they don't like night clubs.

I'm assuming Lemmy trends towards a more introverted group and that's cool. But I'm here not caring about Linux or Baldur's gate, while at the same time understanding that it's very important and interesting to a bunch of people.

I'm an elder millennial. I spent a shit tonne of time in clubs, as did the majority of people I know. I still did other things in places that were more quiet, had conversations and met people. It's true guys - you can actually like both!

I went clubbing to sometimes meet boys, but mostly to drink and dance to extremely loud and often very commercial music, sometimes on drugs too. Because people, that kind of activity is really fun to some people.

But these threads always read like a Boomer pile on on a Facebook post, yammering about how they played outside as kids and walked to school.

The reason younger people aren't clubbing as much is cost. That's it. Talk about that. Not how you think it's an interesting take that clubs are loud and dirty.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I was at a night club last night, partying like I’m in my 20s. Difference is now I’m helping produce the event rather than just going

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Average cocktail around here is $15 + 20% tip = $18.

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[–] You999@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe it's because the majority of Nightclubs are bad products... Why would I want to go to a club where all the art has been sucked out in the name of profit? The resident DJs are just going play the same top 40 tracks while cheap dmx lights are set to auto. There are hundreds of promoters putting in actual value to their shows which makes people actually want to go out instead of the cheap cookie cutter shit you find in the avarage club.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess that's very location dependent, I have no troubles finding cool parties here in Europe. I still only go about twice a year these days but that's for different reasons.

[–] You999@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let me be clear, here in the US Nightclub ≠ venue/party/rave. They are very similar however fundamentally different.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago

I see, yeah I would say here clubs would englobe everything from the top 40 places to the warehouses.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nightclubs aren't on the brink, the idea that one can open a night club and charge $$$ to get in as well as an absurd amount of money to buy drinks is. On a side note, as an elder millennial, I have never really been attracted to loud and dirty places where I can't have a conversation with anyone and every surface is slippery or sticky with god knows what.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

A lot of them are reacting to the decreased number of customers by...raising drink prices. Doesn't really help the situation. I'm too old to go to clubs regularly but if there's an act I want to see, I just get drunk beforehand.

Of course a lot of this is actually because of ridiculous rents anywhere where a club might actually get patrons. Clubs are no small square footage and they need to bring in a lot of money to stay open.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 14 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Alternative non commercial clubs, festivals and parties. That's where the fun is.

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[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Clean living Gen Z? Lol ok sure

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[–] lemmdogmillionaire@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

if you microdose mushrooms when you go out you only need like 1/3 of the normal number of drinks to have a great time trust

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Never actually been to one. No real reason.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago
[–] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 3 points 8 months ago

Ohhhh noooo not the nightclubs!

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