There's no negotiation needed. Russia moving out of Ukraine and paying for all damage until everything is pre crimea. If that is all done, rebuild and paid for, then, they can negotiate for less punishment on top. That's the kind of negotiation you start because both sides have something to gain and not one to keep his unjustified war territory.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if there is no punishment on top, if Putin ends up losing all he gained, heads will roll including Putin's. If he can gain any amount of land in a negotiation and end the war, he can go back to his people and say that it was all worth it and many of them will buy it.

Edit: *many

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My question is why is the US rejecting anything, isn't that a war between Russia and Ukraine?

[–] PakledBrain@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

That's the reason they're rejecting it. From the article:

“Barring a Ukrainian demand signal” for peace talks, “there’s unlikely to be a push from Washington,” he said.

[–] CultHero@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why hasn't the cancer killed the mother fucker already?

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi 0 points 1 year ago

Because that was always a propaganda piece, probably.

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Has Putin actually called for negotiations? An off-hand comment in a Tucker Carlson interview doesn't seem quite like a serious offer.

Also it seems like Ukraine and ukrainians are still pretty much supporting war against Russian aggression: https://news.gallup.com/poll/512258/ukrainians-stand-behind-war-effort-despite-fatigue.aspx

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The negotiation is get the fuck out of Ukraine you blithering waste of flesh.

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