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"Protesters who wear masks could face arrest, up to a month in jail and a £1,000 fine under proposed measures that human rights campaigners claim are pandering to “culture war nonsense”.

Police in England and Wales will be given the power to arrest people if they are wearing face coverings at specific demonstrations, the Home Office has said."

Been a bad 18 months or so for privacy in the UK. Online Safety Bill passed, the right to take strike action curtailed, people in receipt of benefits (including disabled people) will soon (as from 2025) have their bank accounts open to the government, the right to protest curtailed and now this.

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[–] intrepid@lemmy.ca 183 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is just the first step at making protests illegal.

[–] ShortBoweledClown@lemmy.one 67 points 10 months ago

The first step? They've been on this path for years

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

I think you mean the ninety first step.

[–] li10@lemmy.ml 149 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I see no hope for this country. Things are just getting worse and worse every year, how long can this keep going?

It’s pretty bad now, but I seriously worry what things will be like in 20 or so years.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 28 points 10 months ago

Tories on a any% speed run to the government from Children of Men, while the left is worried about which way Kier decides to lean that afternoon

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

Yall need to grab some pitchforks

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 103 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Hmm...I wonder which political spectrum the current government belongs to...

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[–] illi@lemm.ee 100 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So if someone doesn't want to get sick for being in a huge crowd, they get arrested? Truly genius.

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 96 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Remember remember the fifth of November,

When Guy Fawkes took the fall.

Be sure to wear your mask from now on,

They can't arrest us all

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Fake beards, wigs , sunglasses and presumably face paint should be ok

Stay safe protestors. Leave id and phone at home, don't hold anything that could be interpreted as a weapon, and carry a "your rights" card to help you remember what to do if the police try to take away your freedom.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 10 months ago
  1. Don't talk to Police

  2. Don't talk to police

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's like they think V for Vendetta was a blueprint for how to run a utopia.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Alan Moore was pretty prescient apparently

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[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 62 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Man its like the UK is an authoritarian shit hole or something. Y'all need weapons and resistance. And no, I'm not American before someone asks.

[–] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Curious, where are you from? I like it when people from other countries use y'all, especially when the apostrophe is in the right place 🙂

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Im Canadian which I'll be the first to admit is basically American.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You guys better be careful. From what I've heard Canada and Australia aren't exaclty shining beacons of freedom as of late. Love you both tho

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[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is the UK turning into a dictatorship or an undeveloped country ? How is independent press doing over there ?

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 10 months ago (6 children)

More like fascist-adjacent. And we started the process of underdeveloping ourselves when the fascist-adjacent leaders persuaded the terminally ignorant that Brexit would be great when it was obvious it was going to lead exactly where it is leading right now.

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[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 32 points 10 months ago

dictatorship or an undeveloped country

Right-Wing Government: why not both?

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is an admittance that you have no right to protest.

What are.you going to do about it?

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You've got to understand the 'average' British psyche at this point in history. The majority simply don't care that people they see as troublemakers and/or scroungers are having their rights dismantled. They lack the empathy to give a shit for these people and they lack the foresight to see that it'll be their rights gone one day too. What stirs the average british gammon off their collective arses these days is the rumour there might be an immigrant in a hotel somewhere or that a drag queen exists.

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Prote—ahhh nearly got me!

[–] LKPU26@lemmy.ml 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Are they going to arrest Muslim women with face coverings?

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago

Burka-ban has already been introduced in Austria. Didn't really work because that was just before covid but they sure as shit tried.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 28 points 10 months ago

But they already made protest illegal.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

They need the facial recognition software to do it's thing so they can make sure life gets difficult for anyone conscious of their actions.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

V for Vendetta wants their timeline back.

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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I have never seen a cucked nation like the UK in the world before. u guys have no resistance what so ever ! the french should have bought you some freedoms a few centuries ago.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago

It's not even that - the people this is directly affecting (for now) are the people who, if they raise their head above the parapet, it'll get shot off - the people least able to protest. 95% of the country are not lacking resistance, they're lacking empathy and foresight. They show plenty of resistance to media driven culture war bullshit like immigration and LGBTQIA+ issues.

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago

Genocide Island going back to its roots.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

it will be interesting to see if we ever get to a point during the next inevitable global pandemic where masks are compulsory in some places and illegal in others

[–] Pssdoff@beehaw.org 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They want it to be illegal to both wear and not to wear a mask so that they can selectivity enforce arbitrary laws against whomever they wish.

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[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The last one hasn't ended yet

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck this country. I'm moving out.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 20 points 10 months ago

Well that should put us back on track as a nation, practical solutions for our modern problems. What a relief.

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 months ago (9 children)
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[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 16 points 10 months ago

Does it apply to FFP2 respirators?

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What if you're feeling unwell?

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[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Face paint and glasses to break up facial recognition

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] Xavier@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hmm… I may be mistaken but can they not already arrest troublemakers, arsonists, violent/aggressive individuals and other sort of rioters/agitators with preexisting laws/bylaws/regulations ?

On the other hand, I'm trying to see the silver lining here… perhaps this new law will make it difficult for agent provocateur¹ from operating without repercussions and anonymity unless the law specifically has a carve out for them (I wouldn't be too surprised, but it would be another major blow to the resiliency of democracy in the United Kingdom).

Source: Pentney, K. (2021). Licensed to kill…discourse? agents provocateurs and a purposive right to freedom of expression. Netherlands Quarterly of Human Rights, 39(3), 241-257

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Police discretion will already make an exception for them even it's not explicitly carved out, there is no silver lining, it's just more police state shit

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