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Stop being elitist.

Use linux mint.

Why linux mint?

It's like ubuntu but no snaps.

What's ubuntu?

It's like debian but not as stable. You'll get more recent apps in ubuntu, test them, and when they are tested companies use the apps in debian.

Ok, What are snaps?

You can install packages with snap, but it's proprietary.

Ok, that's bad?

Yes. Foss apps are great and better than proprietary garbage.

Ok, foss good, proprietary garbage.

Why debian and not fedora?

Because all apps are build for it.

So it's like aur?

No. Aur is made by users for users. Builds on debian are mostly official.

So the package manager is better on debian?

Yes, kind of.

I heard of distrobox. I could use the package manager on any distro.

Yes, but it's easier at the beginning to stick to one distro and package manager to get used to it.

Why not arch?

It's too unstable.

Ok, no arch distro. I heard manjaro is good.

No, it holds back packages for no reason.

Ok. What about fedora?

It doesn't have as many packages.

But it has the copr, aren't there a lot of apps?

Yes, but it's like aur, it's build by users. Debian builds are good, stable and widely used.

Ok. What about nix? I heared it's the new arch and there are even more packages.

Yes, but It's not for newbies.

What is an immutable system? I heared that's the next big thing.

It's like android an image based operating system where you can't brick your system by accident with rm -rf /

What's rm -rf /?

Just test it in a terminal, it's fun.

How can I play games?

You install steam.

Do I have to configure anything?

Hopefully not

Can I only use linux mint?

No you can use any distro, they are all linux. You can choose whatever you want. Just choose mint.

Why mint?

It has no snaps.

What do I use instead?

Flatpaks

If I use flatpaks, why does the package manager matter so much?

Because not all apps are available as flatpacks, especially command line tools. Snaps has cli but it's proprietary.

Can't I just use any distro and use a debian distrobox for those packages I need from debian?

Yes, use linux mint, it's easy to use.

Do I actually need all those packages? I only use word and steam.

No, probably not.

Why not using ubuntu and install flatpaks?

Because ubuntu sucks.

But isn't mint based on ubuntu?

Yes, but it has no snaps.

Can't I just use debian?

Yes, but it doesn't have the latest packages.

How do I install word?

You can't. You can use the online version.

That's a lot to understand. Can't I just windows? I only open steam anyway.

Yes, but it's proprietary.

Steam is also proprietary.

Yes, but you can play games with it on linux.

But if steam is proprietary, and windows is proprietary, and I mainly use steam anyway, does it even matter?

What's a DE?

Linux mint uses cinnamon, it's cool!

I saw some KDE screenshots. It looks cool and everyone talks about it. There's a big release coming in a few weeks. how do I install it?

You usually don't mix DEs unless you know what you do.

I don't.

Then don't mix it.

But I want to use KDE. Which distro should I use? Kubuntu?

No, it uses snaps like ubuntu.

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[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

tl;dr: Windows poser roleplaying as a Linux tryhard tries to convince a new Linux user

[–] BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But if steam is proprietary, and windows is proprietary, and I mainly use steam anyway, does it even matter?

What's a DE?

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[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Left for further research 😬

[–] Shamot@jlai.lu 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The argument that Debian doesn't have the latest packages is only valid for stable repository, right?

Wouldn't Debian with unstable or testing repo be better than Linux Mint?

[–] mundane@feddit.nu 1 points 5 months ago

Yes, unstable Debian is still hella stable. But you probably don't want to suggest it as the first Linux dust since you need some extra carefulness when updating.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I want to install virtual RMS

Sorry, that package has been removed from Debian repositories

Wait, it is Debian GNU/Linux isn't it ?

Technically yes, but ...

So, how can I install vrms ?

Try the AUR with Arch Linux

But which AUR helper to install ? auracle-git, pbget, repoctl, yaah, aurutils, bauerbill, PKGBUILDer, rua, aura, aurman, pacaur, pakku, paru, pikaur, trizen, or yay ?

........... wait, back in a few minutes

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I find it all fun.

Steam is the exception because every first parzy launcher is proprietary afaik but steam is the only one with linux support

[–] squid_slime@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago
[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago

Dice rolls, all the way down. You'll eventually try more of those other packages "you don't need" in your quest to make your Linux system look and feel how you want, but first you've gotta start with something to get a feel for: "I like this bit, but not this other bit, can I change that?" Generally, yes.

If you're demanding to be told the right way, there's TempleOS for that, or Mac, or Windows, or hell, how about RedStarOS?

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The first time, it was an interesting discussion. Now, it's just spam.

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The first time it was a comment.

I had fun writing it, sorry you were annoyed by me

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Was fun reading it, and brilliant. Thanks! :)