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Apple won't license Masimo's patents despite Apple Watch import ban | AppleInsider (appleinsider.com)
submitted 10 months ago by veeesix@lemmy.ca to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world
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Apple CEO Tim Cook told CNBC in a statement shared on live television that Apple has no intention to license Masimo's patents. While it seemed likely that was the case, the company hadn't said as much publicly until now.

"We're focused on appeal," Cook's statement said. "There's lots of reasons to buy the watch even without the blood oxygen sensor."

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[–] NrdyN8@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

“”There’s lots of reasons to buy the watch even without the blood oxygen sensor””.

I’m sorry but that was the entire reason I was going to trade-in my series 4 for a newer one. So I guess my series 4 that barely last 20hrs will continue to live on my nightstand. I would wear a normal watch if my health wasn’t garbage or if I could ever feel my phone vibrate when it is in my pocket.

[–] Muero@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’ve found the blood oxygen feature on the Apple Watch to be worthless. The error bars on its measurements must be massive, so I would get numerous measurements every day down in the 80s. Better, finger-tip-based hardware measurements taken at the same time were never below 96%. And I’m careful about wearing the Watch just the way Apple recommends. I ended up just turning the feature off entirely, because I don’t want junk data in my Health history. I actually agree with Masimo’s CEO, who said, “I really feel wholeheartedly that consumers are better off without it."

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah it's not at all accurate for me. I'm almost always at about 100% but the highest I've ever read is 96%. The lowest I've ever seen was 94% when I was at around 95%. I've never been sick enough to measure anything lower so maybe it's accurate when your health is shit?

[–] brick@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

You and Tim Apple can both be right on this one.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can’t you take a trip to Canada or Europe and buy one?

[–] NrdyN8@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

That is a valid option. However, I do not feel it is worth the investment to just purchase a watch.

To be honest when I made my initial comment I was having a bad day and reading Cook’s statement irrationally irritated me.

[–] JaymesRS 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Don’t have to license a patent if your worst case scenario is you just buy the company.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I actually don't think you are too far off. About a week ago i read about Masimo unavailing their watch for $999. Not many people will buy a watch for that much even with a blood ox system in it.

I think Apple will wait a year or two for them to "fail" by not succeeding like the investors want and then offer to purchase the company. A super low ball price and then just keep moving on with their plans.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lol

They’re so up their own ass and stubborn about some things.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Their anticompetitive behavior lately (well always, but especially lately) feels so whiny and infantile.

They're kicking and screaming about their closed ecosystem and stealing patented information.

[–] DBT@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Does anyone know if the blood oxygen sensor in ultra watch 2 is used for measuring VO2 max?

I got the ultra 2 because I’m training for ultramarathons and I kind of like to keep track of this as I progress/age.

[–] Muero@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

No, V̇O2 max is estimated by the Apple Watch without any help from the blood oxygen sensor. I’ve had the blood oxygen sensor turned off on my Apple Watches for years, but I still get V̇O2 max estimations after outdoor runs.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I believe even the original Apple watch could do VO2 max, so no it shouldn't.

[–] DBT@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Right, but just like this watch has better GPS than the others, I was curious if the additional hardware could improve VO2 max readings compared to previous watches.