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at first I read that one header as "We're Not Changing"

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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 122 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Even if they are not linked, services can still share data" Isn't that the whole point!?

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In theory, they can't share ad targeting data. That said, with the DMA they should not be able to share "data to effectively make you able to complete tasks", that's the point. Interoperability between Gmail and YouTube should equal the interoperability between Gmail and Peertube or somesuch.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Does that mean i can use a different email?

Protonmail for example

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

You can already use Protonmail for a Google account, It's what I do.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 59 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool, so its either: do YOU want to use shared data across your accounts as well, or only us (google)?

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The loopholes are ridiculous, not to mention that they are obviously going to just break everything for you if you don't comply anyway, but there's so many things they could do to throw sand in the gears- what matters is that the EU is doing something, it's reacting, it's trying to fight it and keep our common European values and not let foreign corporate empires dictate how things are done here, futile as the prospect may seem.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Text transcript for the blind :

Keep your Google services, like YouTube, linked?

YouTube, Google Search, Google Play, Ad services, Google Chrome, Google Shopping & Google Maps.

New laws in the EU mean that, starting on March 6, 2024, Google needs your consent if you want to keep these services linked. When linked, they can share data with each other and with all other Google services to :

  • Combine data to help personalize content and ads.
  • Develop and improve our services.
  • Measure and improve the delivery of ads
  • Perform other purposes described in Google's Privacy Policy at g.co/privacypolicy

Things to know : Other settings let you control whether you see personalized content or ads. Linking Google services is not about sharing your data with third-party services.

What data is used : All types of personal data described in Google's Privacy Policy can be shared across linked Google services.

What's not changing : Even if they're not linked, Google services can always share data with each other to prevent fraud and abuse, effectively help you complete tasks, and for certain other purposes.

You're in control. You can change your choices anytime in your Google Account. Choices will take effect on March 6, 2024. Learn more about linked services. (I don't have the link to transcribe).

Here's a relevant article : https://www.androidauthority.com/google-services-dma-3402702/

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh man thank you I always forget, sorry, didn't think about it.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just dont use screenshots if not needed.

Btw what censor tool is that?

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ha ha none, that's me getting creative so you guys have something pretty to look at while also hiding my personal info. I can't help myself starting to doodling away when I go to delete shit with GIMP.

But I will always prefer screenshots because I think it is more impactful and provides visual context to show what's going on, a picture says more than a thousand words as it were.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Remember! YOU are in control.

[–] zingo@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

An efficient solution would to just stop using Google's services all together. That way they can't spy on you so easily and make a profile from your internet habits.

There are plenty of alternatives to Google services in the opensource realm.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

De-googling is not a simple task, it takes actual man-hours of proper work to be done, especially when we're talking decades of accounts et c. Even when and if that gets done, what are you going to do about Android? And even if you sort that out, there are a hundred other digital ware that would need the same treatment.

At some point the task becomes insurmountable, it seems, not to mention you already need to have a solid technical background to have a chance of pulling it off.

I would love some suggestions if you have them, but frankly I am getting too old for this shit, I've fought it all my life but I'm just the one person and my time is limited you know what I'm sayin.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Good. The more people realize is being spied on, the better.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So basically nothing changed.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Things most certainly changed. Now google has to beg me for it. Come on Google, beg. But maybe your point is that resistance is futile and why even try to fight it just give in and let it happen. I don't know but mama didn't raise no quitter, I don't know about you but to each his own eh.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It's not good enough. Google must DIE <3 ◉⁠‿⁠◉

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Waiting for the perfect solution that might never come without doing anything in the meantime accomplishes nothing.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I do plenty.
You still using Gmail? 🧐

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was talking about law making not you specifically.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just ban Google already 😈

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is the EU slowly doing what it can.

"Kill cancer already"? Ok, for that we need to do testing and advanced chemistry for a long time. This IS how you get rid of it, there is no other way.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

False equivalent.
It's much easier to ban big tech companies than you think, it's literally what China has been doing forever.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

This is one battle in the long war, my friend. If you want to kill them, these kinds of steps are absolutely essential. You can't just go back in time and snipe Hitler, you have to fight on the beaches, on the fields and in the streets, and you must never surrender.

[–] neutron@thelemmy.club 2 points 8 months ago

Does Google allow de-linking between accounts that were linked previously, then? I've seen people holding into a Google account just because it's keeping hostage other accounts they actually care about.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 8 months ago

The next thing we need to outlaw is this marketing bs.

They are asking if you want to link services so they can share data. In the bottom bit they say they’re gonna share anyway for „other reasons“.

Same as with banking services, I want to see how much money they will make from selling my data.

If the thing that's shared is sso then I'm fine with that, but I would also not mind having 3+ accounts if it meant less tracking

[–] gdemoro@mastodon.uno 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de -1 points 9 months ago

Yay no seperate accounts anymore. Like, as if it is hard to create a Google Account...