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I've used a US-QWERTY keyboard layout my entire life. I've seen other layouts that do things like reduce the size of the enter/backspace keys, move the pipe operator (|) and can't wrap my head around how I would code on those.
What are your experiences? Are there any layouts that you prefer for coding over US English? Are there any symbols that you have a hard time reaching ($ for example)?
I can't even wrap my mind around people who use 60% keyboards and use a bunch of extra function keys let alone anything more drastic
Yes, I've been on Norwegian Dvorak since 2002 or so.
Biggest problem I've had is with keyboards and OS'es (cough ๐) that don't support the Insert key, because (a) I cut my teeth on the DOS editor and (b) XCV are all over the place on this layout.
I will always use a proper full size keyboard if at all possible. Those 60% and whatnot are not for me (it's bad enough when they move the arrow keys).
Oh, and the languages insisting on ${} characters are a pain on any non US layout.
Switch to Colemak and that XCV goodness is right where it needs to be.
Never had a nicer typing experience, thanks to DreymaR introducing me to DHm-angle-wide-mod. Colemak FTW!
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ABNT2 here, this layout is necessary due to many brazilian portuguese words containing accents. Plus, having รง as a separate key is great. For coding, the \ | key is left to Z and the : ; key is near the right shift, with brackets and curly braces usually around Enter, while ' " is left to 1. It's very good for programming, I'd say.
The British want a stupid as fuck they moved the tilde into a weird spot and you're basically can't do it
I'm Czech and also speak fluent German, but I rarely use my native languages on my personal PC, so I got used to the US layout. Nowadays I use US layouts that have my native letters on the AltGr key, my Linux pc has an "American - Czech, Slovak, German" layout like that and at work on windows I use the Czech Programmer layout. However, most of my coworkers use the regular Czech keyboard, even for programing, which freaks me out.
Pro tip for fellow yuropean devs: you can change the layout, and learn it easily.
Pro tip for fellow ISO enjoyers living in yurop: a keyboard on Amazon costs 20$. If you're using a laptop you can order one from the UK, it's mostly the same, except beware of the mental asylum layouts that move this | key to the bottom left. You can also buy a laptop from amazon.com if you filter by "global shipping". Power bricks always work with 110/220/240, the cable that goes into the plug is easily exchangeable for 10$.
Some premium brands let you choose the layout. E.g. xmg, slimbook.
Using the JIS layout. One thing I miss from ANSI is the single and double quotes on my right pinky.(on the same key) Other than that, JIS is a nice layout to do programing with.
I use a 42 key layout modified from bรฉpo (french dvorak inspired layout) with the altgr layer of ergol. Go check this altgr layer it's awesome for programming, and there is a version compatible for qwerty and lafayette.
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โ โ ยน โ ยฒ โ ยณ โ โด โ โต โ โถ โ โท โ โธ โ โน โ โฐ โ โ โ
โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ
โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ โ
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ยท โ โ โค โ โฅ โ *ยค โ โฐ โ *^ โ โ ร โ *ยด โ *` โ โ โ
ยท โ @ โ < โ > โ $ โ % โ ^ โ & โ * โ ' โ ` โ โ โ
ยท โ โโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโโโโโโโผโโโโโโค
ยท โ โ โฝ โ โพ โ โ โ โ */ โ ยฑ โ โ โ รท โ *ยจ โ โ โ
ยท โ { โ ( โ ) โ } โ = โ \ โ + โ - โ / โ " โ โ โ
โญโโโโโโโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโผโโโโโโโโโโโโดโโโโโโฏ
โ โ *~ โ โ โ โ โ โ ยฆ โ ยฌ โ *ยธ โ โ โ ยท
โ โ ~ โ [ โ ] โ _ โ # โ | โ ! โ ; โ : โ ? โ ยท
โฐโโโโโโธโโโโโโดโโโโโโดโโโโโโดโโโโโโดโโโโโโธโโโโโโดโโโโโโดโโโโโโดโโโโโโดโโโโโโ ยท ยท ยท ยท ยท ยท
I'm using a sligntly modified Niro layou (in a way that makes it more ergonomic with vim). Though I might need to adjust it since lately I began feeling disproportionate strain on my right ring finger.
I do! ISO-ES the only real annoyance is that / is locked behind Ctrl+7 instead of next to the spacebar. My laptop is also in ANSI despite me using ISO so I'm missing a couple of keys
Iโm having to use US keyboard layout in Oz and not enjoying the half-height Return key very much.
My os is running with a slightly modified us qwerty, which then is mapped through keyboard firmware to a modified us dvorak.
On UK keyboards the ยฃ replaces the $ and $ replaces '
Double quotation marks " are in the same place though so a lot of british programmers don't use single quotation marks because they are hard to press. If your touch typing you have to reach all the way to the bottom right with your right hand little finger and it's just not worth it.
ANSI all the way. I get irrationally angry about any other layout ๐ก
