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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 100 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 68 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why don't Presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 54 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Of course not. Millennials are too old and unless things kick off in the next couple years, gen z will be too.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What are we calling the generation below them? I’m really losing track nowadays.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 44 points 9 months ago

Gen Alpha, they don’t have a nickname yet.

[–] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gen A. They’re around middle school and younger now.

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 71 points 9 months ago (3 children)

A whole generation of Forest Gump's girlfriend?

[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Hey. This is a great joke. Thanks.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern 40 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Millennials volunteered for Iraq.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Before World War I and World War II, many thought things would not escalate until we realised it was far too late. The British intelligence thought the assassination of Franz Ferdinand would only be contained regionally instead of escalating to a world war.

Most wars are class wars and most issues are class issues. But most people are not class conscious. The base tribalism is instead drummed up to distract us from the real root cause. We're seeing the rise of the far right in many countries such as in Europe, US and India. Most of the rise of the right is due to influx of migrants, who are displaced by neocolonial foreign policies of corporate backed governments and capitalism-induced global warming.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 35 points 9 months ago (74 children)

I mean it definitely depends on the circumstances. If Russia attacks here then I'm absolutely fighting.

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 9 months ago (21 children)

This sentiment of 'I'm not going to fight' is funny until the war actually starts. And then it's either you fight early, or you fight late. Sometimes too late.

[–] MinusPi@yiffit.net 22 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Nah. I'd legitimately rather kill myself than fight for my government.

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[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

As long as they are recruiting the dumbest and poorest from your failing high-schools you'll always have enough for your wars.

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Millennial here. Can confirm, I'll be staying home and doing my own thing. One live isn't worth more then another and I'm not going to war. If you're going to put me in jail because I refuse, then maybe I need to find a different country to live in.

[–] kusuriya@infosec.pub 16 points 9 months ago

On the very off chance they restarted the draft, there are tons of reasons the Pentagon would fight conscription, make sure you know asylum procedures or have the stuff ready to immigrate. Run don't try to just ignore the draft.

They, the last time they did the draft, didn't just throw normies into jail, they grabbed them then kicked them over to the military and then if you ran away and got brought back after being AWOL they just deployed you and let happen what happened, regulars frequently discovered that these sorts had... uhh... "accidents" at a more frequent rate.

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[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (22 children)

You'd be amazed what some good old fashion propaganda will do for you.

The US was so gung-ho after 9-11 they accidentally attacked the wrong country. I know they didn't have any problem getting troops or buy-in from the people of all ages. It was pretty disgusting how quickly your average citizen bought into the bull-shit the Bush administration was selling when it was obviously a lie.

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[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 22 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The first gun they'll give me I'll aim at myself and be done with it.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 9 months ago (4 children)

You can aim it at your commanding officer first!

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'll defend my country, but I'm not going to engage in an armed conflict overseas.

IMO, as long as it's not directly threatening me and my life, then I will simply see another WW as old people who are angry at other old people, sending me off to die for their grudge.

No thanks chief. Stick me in prison if you're so inclined but I'm not about to kill some poor kid I've never met and I don't have anything against, just because you can't use your words.

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[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago (6 children)

My kid doesn't particularly want to fight, but she's ok with guns and convinced anarchy will be good for the environment?! Idk, she's not dumb, but these kids have less stake in the institutions than MAGA retirees..

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Does she mean "anarchy" or Anarchism, a stateless classless society based on voluntary associations?

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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 9 months ago

The fact they will never have the chance to enter the ownership class keeps manifesting in new and interesting ways in the media, at their jobs, in their schools, amongst their social circles. The decline in availability of material wealth destabilizes all.

Yall ever seen Daybreakers? It's kinda corny but it feels more relevant every day.

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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So...they are going to send gen x and gen alpha?

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 13 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Gen X here, fuck that noise.

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[–] Elementalbeast@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Between propaganda and indecision, a whole generation will learn of conscription.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 14 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Hey if anyone’s a lawyer or knows what they’re talking about what’s the current consensus or constitutionality of conscription in the US? I think it’s illegal under the 13th amendment (which literally bans servitude AKA forced service) and the only court case I could find had the opinion of “well everyone else does it!”

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (7 children)

If I remember my constitutional law classes correctly, conscription was canned after a series of Supreme Court cases where conscientious objectors successfully argued that under the 1st amendment they could not be made to serve. Since "religion" is very loosely defined in the US, pretty much anyone can claim that conscription violates their free exercise of a peace-loving religion.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago

When you show zero loyalty out, it's hard to get loyalty back.

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Uhm, doofus, nobody's gonna fight in ww3.

Bombs get launched and we ALL die, that's how ww3 is faught.

It's frightening how little the younger generations understand about nuclear war.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (14 children)

There have been plenty of wars fought in the age of nuclear weapons that, strangely enough, have not resulted in the use of nuclear weapons. There's a few of them going on right now, in fact!

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[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Me looking at the handful of declassified missile defense sites and wondering what shit we have that isn't known.

Yeah.. it'll just be that simple Mr. Armchair General.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 14 points 9 months ago

I would defect to the afterlife before fighting a war for this country.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (15 children)

Nah fuck ya'll Ima sign up if we have an enemy worth fighting for the first time in my life. I'll push the lines to Moscow, Beijing, idgaf: dictatorships will destroy us all if left unchecked, make life not worth living for everyone. The whole time I'm deployed I'm going to be using absentee ballots, and if I make it back I'm gonna use my new cred to run for office and fight the corporations, too.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you are in the US, you might wanna prevent your own dictatorship first.

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