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So we can stand around at the bar for twenty minutes being overlooked whilst gasping for a drink? No thanks.

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[–] rjek@feddit.uk 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A pub I go into encourages people to not form queues, that'd be great if the staff could keep track of who is to be served next. Which they don't. So people queue and do so in a way sociopaths can't skip it.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Whole good bar staff should be able to do this, there's a degree of etiquette from the punters that's always been in play too, if you know someone was up the ramp before you, you tell the bar staff if they try and serve you first.

[–] JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com 8 points 1 year ago

This makes a lot of sense. Essentially this will only happen in a bar that has bad bartenders that can't do their job very well.

If the bars don't want it happening, they need to have better service.

[–] NightAuthor@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder if designating like 8 lines would help the issue. Portland Oregon (US) has this same lining up at the bar issue.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the first time I've heard of this fake outrage. Literally no-one does this in any of the pubs I drink at.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've seen it happen occasionally—generally I'll ignore the queue and walk up to the bar anyway. Had someone kick off at me about it once

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Shit food pubs….like Marstons and Greenking. It happens in them.

[–] Haus@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Is that faint, faraway noise I hear the sound of Jon Richardson screaming?

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I've been out a lot this last month due to birthdays, a holiday and other events. I haven't seen this happen in one pub, everyone is just up the ramp as normal.

[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen this anywhere recently (I've since covid) - slow news day at LBC?

[–] PaulDevonUK@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Numbered ticket dispenser is another option allowing crowding the bar yet orderly sequencing.

[–] Jonny0stars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

There's so many places that could benefit from one of these and I don't just mean pubs. I've seen all sorts of shit systems to do the same thing, taking people's names, giving people buzz tokens etc, all fail under high demand, many assumes the queue up to the point of order is orderly.

Not only are queues and "pre-queues" full of sociopaths, willing to do the chat and cut and on the other side of the spectrum people trying to stop queue jumper entry by attempting to climb into your back pocket.

The number despencer has so many advantages, you can place it ahead of your actual queue (if you have one, with the number system you don't actually need one), this way chat and cutters can't jump the queue that can still chat but they can't cut, there's no issues with pronouncing weird names or having two people with the same name, it's not trying to be your pal, you are merely a number to be efficiently processed in exchange for currency.

It also allows for some kind of control over queue size and could help prevent situations where people are queuing for something that's about to close half way through, no more tickets means you can't join the queue, there's the possibility for DoS but can easily be solved by taking the ticket dispenser at a closer proximity to staff.

[–] Katzelle3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

But that's already how it's done in a post office.

[–] porkins@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They should have a designated queue area, but still maintain those sitting at the bar. Alternate, one order for the seated, one for the queue. If you want to get fancy, replace the queue area with a cubby system and an app. Order from the app, pay, and get a QR code and a cubby number when your drink is ready. QR unlocked your drink cubby. The cubbies can be see through. I should invent this.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If people don't want to form a line do you think they'll download an app? I can already hear the boomers raging on FB about it.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a millennial and there's 0% chance I'm downloading an app riddled with trackers and adverts just to order a drink.

[–] porkins@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s possible to create an effective mobile experience for ordering, paying, and retrieving a QR code with just a website. Your feedback has only helped refine the idea. Unless you won’t use the internet either.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I won't use the internet ever, in fact I only post to Lemmy by sending a letter to a nearby university who publish my views on the fediverse for me.

A website I can visit with an adblocker is a totally different thing to an app, one of the reasons companies like apps is they can bundle all kinds of adware and shite with it. No thanks.

[–] porkins@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we are in agreement then that a web app is sufficient since you can run your blockers while paying in crypto to hide your illicit beer drinking.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So many assumptions in this post I don't know where to start lol

[–] porkins@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The boomers will just sit at the bar. The cubby system is really just to help protect the bartender from the line-people getting pissy whenever the bartender serves the non-cubby patrons. Puts up a barrier and saves them time having to take some of the orders.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So theatres do this so your drink is ready to go during intermission. Don't think you need an app to speed up the bar experience these days give how quick paying by contactless is anyway.

[–] theTrainMan932@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

(Edit: should specify this is aimed at the phones and qr codes system!) That would absolutely ruin the atmosphere for me though, the character of a bar is the bustle and people standing around as well as the chatter you get sometimes.

Removing all that and just having people tap away at their phones while the bar staff silently make drinks, then people walking to a box to grab theirs honestly sounds uninviting.

Nice concept on paper but it'd ruin a bar for me.

[–] porkins@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

People tap on their phones all the time anyways. Many people don’t mind getting their drinks faster and being able to spend time with the people they actually came to to the bar to see instead of having to jockey for a drink. Having an alert tell you when your drink is ready is efficient. Paying from your phone means you’ll buy more because it’s easy. People who don’t want to use their phones can sit and order at the bar.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Was in a Spoons once and managed to miss the bar queue that was down the side of the bar, where there was a board separating customer and staff side, but like a metre down. Let’s not do that.

[–] adam@fedi.alc.im 1 points 1 year ago

I've never once seen this happen 🤣

[–] tkc@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't seen this myself, but yeah, would not be a fan. Totally takes the social aspect out of it.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

the youth these days, refusing to mob up. you know they are all thinking about online ordering and droid delivery solutions. how are you supposed to pickpocket or molest anyone anymore?

[–] alex_02@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

That has to be a Starbucks.