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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elephant's foot was the name my mother gave the sock under my desk

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus fucking sock am I right

[–] craftyindividual@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good grief, the noise on that picture tells a terrible story.

[–] proctonaut@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Deep-fried memes were a lot more dangerous to produce back in the day.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Real photo info: Picture of the "Elephant's foot" which is a melted mess of radioactive fun from Chernobyl post accident.

More info here: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/the-elephant-foot-of-the-chernobyl-disaster-1986/

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably the last picture that guy ever took.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The article says at that point ('96) a lethal dose would take 500 seconds of exposure. Still not good though.

[–] kspatlas@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't the term for the melted fuel/reactor bits corium

[–] max@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

It is, though this deposit of Corium is called the elephant’s foot due to its shape.

[–] Jakylla@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, actually "Corium" is a word that was made for the occasion, meaning "Element made by the core of nuclear reactor"; the elephant's foot is that particular blob of corium that is under Chernobyl's reactor

[–] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

No one is going to talk about the elephant (foot) in the room?

[–] lurker7141@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So that guy definitely got a lethal dose of radiation, right? I thought a couple minutes near that thing meant certain death.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to an article posted in the comments, this was in '96 and it was emitting 10 times less radiation. It says over 500 seconds would be lethal.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Still, that close and without full face coverage. I certainly wouldn't want to be there.

[–] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you think that the suit he's wearing somehow protects against the gamma radiation and neutrons screaming through his body? It's just to keep from tracking dust / tiny radioactive particles.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, I did think that.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't there a suit that can protect from radioactivity? Whats the point of the suit if the user gets fucked either way?

[–] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 3 points 1 year ago

No, there's nothing human+portable that will provide enough protection for it to be worthwhile:

Unlike charged particles, a certain percentage of gammas will always make it through the absorber, and it is useful to consider the half-value thickness of a given absorbing material for the gamma ray energies of interest.

https://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/presentations/%CE%B1-%CE%B2-%CE%B3-penetration-and-shielding

Neutrons require similar shielding.

It's possible to block alpha emissions with skin/paper and beta with a sheet of foil, gamma and neutron are scary

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Definitely agreed. The article said he just took a quick reading while the picture was taken. Apparently no long term effects would happen from the little exposure, but I'm not sure their reference for that.

Either way, the further away to it from me, the better.

[–] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No; that photo is from 1996 (a decade after the incident) where the vast majority of short lived fission products are well into their decay chains.

It's not safe to be around it for a long period now (and it still wasn't then), but it'd take at least a few minutes of getting up close and personal with it to see any short term effects.

FWIW NYT interviewed him in 2014. He may have since passed (I didn't look it up) but certainly not as a result of acute radiation exposure.

Fun fact: the film had to be exposed for several seconds for each of the images in this series due to the low light levels, which contributes to the amount of radiation 'fuzz' in the images. Think 1800s camera levels of staying still for a photo, just in front of a giant radioactive chunk of corium.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why didn't they just bring bigger lights I wonder? Space constraints? Is this sitting inside a collapsed basement?

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

That appears to be the Elephant's foot in Chernobyl. When it was first discovered it apparently could cause radiation poisoning within 4 minutes.

That being said, the half life decay of the elephant's foot has been going on for awhile. Artur Korneyev, who took photographs appears to be alive to this day.