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While Education and Organizing is building the parts for a new engine the rest of the year.

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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

maybe instead of demanding the votes of the left you should earn them. Of course, this only really applies in systems where 2 parties dominate while other parties aren't really a credible option for most people, like the US, which in itself is a systemic flaw that should be addressed if you want a healthy democracy.

You don't get to blame people for not voting your candidate because "it was less bad than the other", if your whole point is being less bad than the other, rather than actually being good, then you're already losing and you should start looking at how to fix this issue before it gets worse. When turnout is lower than usual, like in 2016 in the US but also other elections like Italy in 2022, it means that democracy isn't healthy and there's a systemic problem which is leading to voters getting disillusioned, disengaged and disenfranchised from politics, which is extremely bad and should signal to you that "There's an issue! We need to fix it!" not that "Voters are so lazy/dumb/scum for not getting off their couch and voting [for me]".

Finally, I'd like to reiterate that if you keep asking leftists to vote for you at every election (to beat the other bad guys), yet every time you move further away from the left and/or disappoint leftists, eventually leftists will stop believing your bullshit and not vote you anymore, and you deserve that.

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[–] DuckOverload@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

This is a fine attitude when you have to choose between eating the shit sandwich and the shards of glass. It's not so good during the primary, when you're deciding whether the first option will be a shit sandwich.

This is also not a good thing when it's weaponized to make sure that no genuinely progressive candidate can be realistic.

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[–] Cool_Name@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Actually, the general elections are on leap year, so you can educate and organize 365 days a year!

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[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If Democrats had ever done anything to fight fascism instead of just enabling it literally for generations, we wouldn't need to defend abortion.

Edit: also, of course a liberal uses a car analogy. How much more accurate could you get than to relate the democratic party to a thing most Americans are forced to use against their will, that kills their children and destroys their future... With an incredibly racist history and only slightly less racist present.

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[–] Numberone@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I get the sentiment, but I don't owe anyone a vote. Voting for the lesser of two evils is one thing when it's someone useless like Obama, but the "good" option is balls deep in a genocide and destabilizing the world in his allegiance to another country. Not voting for the senile genocide guy is the least I can do.

I'll be the first to say it sucks. Despite busting the railway unions his NLRB was doing good shit. It really really sucks.

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[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

"whine ineffectually about it the rest of the time, but throw your unquestioning support behind our shitfuckery when we need it, no matter how bad we get"

Vote local, vote often, and try to help people be able to do the same. We'll get better candidates if and when we start voting them into smaller positions first. Republicans are generally more likely to vote locally, and this allows them to gerrymander the voting districts and control stuff from the local level up. Change your town and state officials to be more progressive, and they'll support more progressive policies and politicians at higher levels of government.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

If leftists in Florida voted for Gore instead of Nader, we would have started a comprehensive program to address climate change in 2001. And the Iraq War would not have happened.

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My private and professional perspective as a trans woman and political scientist if there is low voter turnout this next election:

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