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[–] Ace0fBlades@lemmy.world 414 points 1 year ago (29 children)

Tldr: Remote desktop, Cortana, camera, people app are all getting uninstall buttons.

[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)
PS> get-appxpackage *teams* | remove-appxpackage
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[–] Tischkante@kbin.social 159 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The more steam deck and proton get games working on linux, the less need I have for this bloated windows.

[–] niisyth@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's truly ridiculous how much Linux gaming leapfrogged with the Steam Deck. I'm contemplating installing a debian partition for my main PC since I don't really play a lot of games that need anti-cheat.

The madlads really did it.

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[–] sadreality@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yeah gamers are 95% good to switch.

Gamers and microshit have incompetiable values.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 24 points 1 year ago

If devs started making anticheat for Linux it would get closer.

If they stopped making launchers it would be easier too.

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[–] polle@feddit.de 103 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I'm all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

[–] Piers@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be clear, they seem to be saying that those apps will still be preinstalled. They'll just be easier to uninstall if you want to do so.

"option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client. "

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[–] Leminator@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Let's cut the crap: it's not that they "realized" nobody wants it -- it's that they've come to accept the blowback against their reputation has gotten too big to outweigh the potential pros of preinstalled bloatware supporting their strategy.

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[–] DreamySweet@lemmy.sdf.org 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They always knew, they just didn't care.

[–] giant_smeeg@feddit.uk 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Im running Windows 11 on my new laptop. Every major update it's like:

  • PLZ LET EDGE BE UR BROWSER
  • BRO PLZ, OFFICE SUBSCRIPTION
  • LOCATION?
  • Let me just install tiktok and FB apps.

My laptop officially supports Ubuntu, think I might make the switch full time. I don't game on my laptop and most of it's use is browser, plex and emails...

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[–] Ragerist@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Realized?? They knew all the time, and didn't give a shit.

It's more likely that they have pushed too far, and users are pushing back. They will dial it back a bit, and hope people forget.

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[–] quams69@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That, and stop dumbing down the UI. Gradeschoolers in 1999 could operate windows, it doesn't need to get dumber

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 51 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Gradeschoolers, yes.

Boomers are still struggling even with the modern, simplified UI. They would likely continue to struggle if we had Idiocracy style UI on things (big, bright colored buttons with pictures of what they do).

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They've always realized, they've just never cared.

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[–] thattysonguy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't give a shit, I'll use other programs to uninstall whatever I want.

Call me when I can use a vertical task bar. Until then, I'm sticking with win10.

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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 year ago (14 children)

a beta build of Windows 11 in the Canary Channel includes the option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client.

Still no Microsoft edge though...

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[–] MossBear@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This is all so foreign to me now. I'm not forced to keep anything on Linux.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 94 points 1 year ago (17 children)

How to tell if someone uses Linux? Don't worry they will tell you.

[–] Dablin@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I use Arch BTW. Sorry couldn't help myself.

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[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A vegan, Linux using crossfitter walks up to you. What do they tell you about first?

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[–] sndrtj@feddit.nl 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Is there a way to disable the ads, news and recommendations yet? Until then I'm not upgrading.

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[–] urfavlaura@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

it's crazy to think that you can't just uninstall some apps in the first place even though it would be technologically possible

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait: They are saying you can remove the Remote Desktop client? You mean the client you cannot use to connect to a Windows Home license because you cannot run remote desktop without a higher license?

Interesting flex there Microsoft.

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[–] GloveNinja@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (9 children)

If I could also get the ability to disable internet search results from the start menu that'd be great. So sick of looking for a file or app, hitting enter a second too soon, and having Edge slowly eat my resources to display a Bing search result that I never wanted.

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[–] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Good, maybe in two or three more years Windows 11 will be useable. Right on time for Windows 12 to roll out and drag Microsoft users back to the Stone Age again.

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[–] pixelscience@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm a CG artist and I dual boot Fedora on my workstation and run it on my file/license server. I'm very familiar with Linux and it's great for a lot of things.

A ton of my software runs much better than on windows and I would stay in it if I could, but unfortunately I have software needs that don't run on Linux and can't work in a VM in full capacity.

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[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They always knew. When the time comes they'll force everything back with even more bloatware and even less freedom to choose because that's the corpo way. This is just another long-term power grab.

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[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (13 children)
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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Windows 11 Pro, now with NOTHING installed. Windows 11 Pro plus, now with firefox pre-installed so you can clame your system never had edge on it!

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