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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by neidu2@feddit.nl to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

This is your annual reminder to do a snapshot (timeshift or whatever you prefer) before doing relatively minor changes to your system.

I was supposed to be in bed now, but instead I am stuck troubleshooting xorg refusing to start after an apt-get dist-upgrade.

And as far as friendly reminders go, I should've given myself an unfriendly reminder beforehand, as it's not the first time....

UPDATE: Fuck nvidia 545. All my homies hate nvidia 545. 535 4 lyf!

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[–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

BTW, nixos allows you to easily roll back to a previous generation on boot in case an update breaks something.

Just sayin' 😁

[–] million@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So does Fedora Silverblue for the record.

It is a damn impressive feature to realize you just broke your install and are able to say “no problem”.

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Si does tumbleweed, two-clicks rollback from the GRUB menu

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Silverblue gang!

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
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[–] aard@kyu.de 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Friendly reminder: just don't buy nvidia

[–] CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Many already have nvidia before they start with linux. I'm still on my 1060 from 2018.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Another problem is that most manufacturers of laptops directed at the Linux crowd, for some reason I will never understand, insist on punching Nvidia hardware instead of AMD/ATI. How does that help?

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[–] southernwolf@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately for those of us that use Cuda features, AMD just really isn't that viable of an alternative. Anyone who's had to deal with ROCM can attest to this...

[–] driveway@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

As soon as AMD is competitive in price/performance in my region. I won't give them money just becauae they have open source drivers.

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[–] liforra@endlesstalk.org 26 points 1 year ago

When u realize you dont even use a backup software rn

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember to check your three "B"s; your balls, your breasts and your backups.

[–] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago

I'm using this from now on

[–] frankenswine@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Or you opt for an operating system that lers you roll-back whole generations for when such a thing happens (GNU Guix for the win!)

[–] antsu@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Timeshift with BTRFS kicks ass. I have mine set for daily snapshots, retained for a week. Only the changes between snapshots are stored, so the extra disk usage is minimal, and easily justified by the peace of mind in case of fuck-ups or broken updates.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Just make sure you back up your stuff to a second disk❤️

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[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linux noobie here. Any tips on what to search for for instructions on how to do this? Bonus points if it has a GUI and is easy to use.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Timeshift. It has an easy to understand GUI that doesn't really need much of an intro: You create snapshots of your system files and configs that can be restored if/when you bungle it up.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks, all setup!

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Timeshift works best if you use BTRFS for your root partition because snapshots can be taken instantly. I have mine setup to automatically take a snapshot every day.

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never used it myself and i am still a linix noob but what is the restore process if your OS isnt bootable?

If their like a rescue environment you boot into or something?

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

There are many approaches, depending on what broke. In my case the system was fine, just xorg being completely borked. So I logged into the console and fixed it.

If regular console doesn't work, something really went bad during boot, for which there's single-user mode which is kind of similar to safe mode from Windows 98 (I'm sure there's something similar in newer windows versions).

And of that doesn't work, there's the minimalistic rescue shell.

And if that doesn't work, you can boot from a USB or some other external media and try to fix your system from that, maybe even using chroot to use the system somewhat normally.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as your file system is on BTRFS, timeshift is, I O, the easiest backup app for Linux, specially if you're just getting your feet wet in it.

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why does Timeshift only support btrfs? Is it just a lack of developers? LVM supports snapshots too, even if you're just using ext4. ZFS supports snapshots too.

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[–] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it dumb that I only backup my docs and anything else I think is important? I can rebuild fairly quickly if something would happen. I ask since I know that people backup a variety of their directories

[–] CalicoJack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

If you're comfortable, you're fine. Anything more would just be to speed up the rebuild, so it's less important if you don't mind taking the time.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I will never install a Linux desktop without a snapshotting root filesystem ever again. Nvidia driver updates, /boot getting too full during kernel or driver updates, a bad update of pipewire half a year ago, and more I can't remember. Was always able to boot to previous snapshot of the OS, and address whatever it was. Some ZFS here, some BTRFS there... and my small fleet of Linux desktops are as easy to recover as any immutable OS. Better even, because snapshots allow me to pull individual items or things between states easily, too.

[–] minimalfootprint@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Neat little guide (Arch, systemd) to set up automatic snapshots when you run a pacman/yay update and the option to chose snapshots in grub during startup. Really useful.

[–] imnapr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

The nvidia 545 drivers are an absolute dumpster fire. Even for beta drivers they are easily the worst drivers I've ever used. They claim to fix the vrr gsync bug tho... so as soon as they fix gestures broadly everything else, maybe they'll be good

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely. I use Timeshift on Linux Mint Debian Edition and set it to take weekly snapshots. Saved my bacon about 2 weeks ago when a kernel update borked my system.

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