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[–] Mammal@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Spend 30 days in jail vs Murder the locals.

Shocked that this is so rare it makes the news.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It isn't rare at all, the news is just primed to latch onto this stuff now.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I hope you're right. It's entirely possible you are and this is being politicized and publicized precisely because of ongoing events. But I sincerely hope the number does go up because of current events.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If you've ever seen a video of those monsters celebrating the destruction of Palestinian's homes it would become clear why it's so rare. Literally jumping for joy and clapping after kicking someone out of their home and watching as it crumbles in front of them. Inhuman.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

This is something that happens all the time, why are you calling it "so rare"?

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you're claiming "those monsters" includes non-members of the military who are up for conscription? I.e. every Israeli?

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

1), that's bad faith and 2) If you go to jail because you refused to serve, no I would not consider you a monster, quite the opposite.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This shouldn't even be news, it literally happens constantly in Israel. I personally know someone who did time for refusing mandatory service. It's considered a rite of passage by those of certain political persuasions.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

Forced military service in an ethnostate engaged in genocide is a pretty righteous thing to oppose.

Conscription is yet another good reason to stop finding or enabling Israel's psychotic march to the sea.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

FYI, the phrase is "rite of passage".

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

If my country was doing this I’d refuse too.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Prison or worse for refusing to give your life for your Leader is completely normal in any fascist regime.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Normal? It's a defining feature

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Well, among other.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please tell me of one country where you can refuse to obey a call to arms.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most EU contries don`t have a forced Military Service. Even if they have, as.eg Germany in the past, you can select an alternative social service for an equivalent time, if you don't want become a soldier.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

No European country is at war. Do you really think it wouldn't come back if war was actually starting in Europe?

[–] dmonzel@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago

Shit, this is one of the kids Hasan just had on a couple weeks ago.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago

Good for him. Hope they treat him better than they've shown they treat other civilians.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

What’s legal and what’s moral are rarely the same

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Good on him.