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[–] infyrin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (16 children)

It's embarrassing to the US that they've spent a good 20 some odd years, fiddling with the Middle-East for a various assortment of reasons. Only to lose Afghanistan in less than a week. All of that money. All of the lives involved. Wasted. Just so a group of tyrants with pre-school level of intelligence, maybe even less, take it over and ruin the lives of everyone not them.

Maybe that's why the US has forgotten it, they don't want the humiliating memory.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The resources you're referring to during the first decade were not used for "fiddling", but well-spent on capturing and killing bin Laden and negating the threat of al-Qaeda. The occupation of Afghanistan following the raid on bin-Laden continued to be costly without reaping similar tangible rewards and that's all the more reason for the US to subsequently withdraw from Afghanistan.

The US didn't "lose Afghanistan", they stopped pouring resources and lives into a very costly and difficult occupation without significant local support that didn't make any sense or reap any benefit after achieving their stated goals of capturing and killing bin laden and dismantling al-Qaeda.

Nobody has forgotten Afghanistan, there just isn't a foreign power actively occupying and policing their country anymore.

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[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Does anyone have stats on Afghanistan's opinions on America's occupation right before we left? I imagine most of them wanted America to leave...

Though I'm now curious what their TRUE opinion was of the Taliban, because I see people wanting Communism back in Russia, I imagine people wanted the Taliban back instead of the Americans.

I'm sure at least 50 percent of them are like "Fuck no" (women), but when that group isn't a huge part of the people guarding the country, I wonder if this was inevitable. Even if we somehow destroyed the entire Taliban, there would be another fundamental Islamic group who wanted to take over.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] UFO64@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When the US pulled out the Taliban didn't have to fight to take control. The population was ready and willing to put them back into power.

This was the choice the country made. It's not our place to step into their internal politics at this point. The US did that for years and they decided very clearly they didn't want that.

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[–] mayo@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago

I know way too little about this to have an actual opinion about it. I read the article just as a way to learn more about what's going on with those people right now. At the very least their lives are ruined, and we're mostly just hearing from the refugees.

Ending quote: The man blames the former Afghan government under Ashraf Ghani and the international coalition, which operated in the country for 20 years, for “everything falling apart so quickly.” “We have lost everything, even our hope for the future. We’re living in a country of lies, a country that no longer exists,” he concludes.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

why didn't you fight harder for your country

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