"Scheming EU states" is a total flame bait headline. The UK is not part of the EU, so why should they be included in any of this? They should be HAPPY about the EU not "meddling" with their "freedom"!
this post was submitted on 26 Dec 2023
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Not only that, but there are also two arrows on this map going into the UK. It’s up to the UK to take care of how well these arrows connect to important locations within their borders. There really doesn’t appear to be an issue whatsoever.
These arrows already exist! The France one is the English tunnel and the Ireland one is there because they need to make Ireland feel like one island. The uk dont have much control over how well they connect to their border. I think the uk would have benefited from this plan as they seem to be having problems with trains
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If that idiotic and corrosive Brexit campaign had been defeated, the headline might be screaming how scheming EU nations drag the UK into their expensive transport plans.
Also the same mindless parrots on their tellys and newspapers would be mindlessly arguing the point, tossing out word salads, exactly as they would with the EU making their plans and keeping the UK out of them.
Meanwhile, non-voters who could have made a difference will be just as idiotic on polling day: "Politics is for wankers/both parties are the same. Shall we go for drinks?"
It's wild to me how America, UK, and Canada are dealing with these idiotic right wing extremists or fans. It did not go well in the states, is still not going well, but people in other countries are all agreeing that yeah now is the time to be loud, racist, shitholes who make life worse for everyone with their stupidity????? What the fuuuck
Step 1) blame everyone else for everything that's wrong. Step 2) promise all the good things if only people vote for you. If they are actually gullible enough to do that we come to step 3) grab all the wealth you can and shift it to your cronies, smash anything too heavy to carry off and leave the opposition in a smouldering ruin that you can then again blame and berate the next government for.
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I'd welcome the EU meddling in my freedom; certainly would be better than the Tories
The UK doesn't need to be part of this really, there's one link to mainland Europe (the channel tunnel) and the rest should just be sensible UK road and rail network planning. NI and Ireland already have ways to cooperate when it comes to planning transport on the Ireland of Island.
I say "in theory" because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.
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Those scheming betrayers also left Australia out of the transport plan for EU members.
How much lead paint do you need to eat to see the loaded language in these headlines and think "yeah - seems legit."
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This is from the Daily Express, which is a paper that's full of these sort of ragebait, horseshit headlines.
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Ohh no how can they not include me in their plan after i burn the bridges with them
Oh no, the consequences of my own actions!
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Wasn't the UK govt also complaining about their tax money going into funding EU projects like this?
No one said they didn't want these kind of projects. They just didn't want to have to pay for them.
I lived in Britain during the Leave campaign and it was all about getting the benefits without the responsabilities or costs.
In fact, the sequence of political events that lead to the Leave Referendum was Britain in the EU trying to have less and less obligations whilst keeping the benefits of Membership to the point that eventually, when the UK demanded "otherwise we have a Referedum on Leave" to not to have to abide by Freedom Of Movement into their country whilst keeping all the rest including Freedom Of Movement for Britons into other EU countries, the rest of the EU said "No!". After this, David Cammeron was under huge pressure to do the Referendum "to show the EU" and the rest is History.
The La-La-Land fantasism of the Leave side was always unbelievable, with everything from genuine expections of, post leave, having "Same Rights as Members With No Obligations", to after Brexit "Other EU Nations will Follow Us Out".
I would say that by this point it's clear that whatever Britain is "showing the EU" isn't quite what was in Leaver fantasies.
I'm definitely just a dumb American but I love how apparently "What is Brexit" was the biggest UK web search the day it got approved.
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Now departing Fuck Around; next stop, Find Out!
Especially true since the article comes from a paper that backed Brexit.
Scheming EU to make an EU travel plan for countries that didnt voluntarily leave the EU to pursue some racist bullshit propaganda that even the people who started brexit, deep down, didnt want, and never thought would actually happen.
It's always weird to read stuff from the UK to do with brexit. That paper is clearly some right wing rag and the reality is that we are connected via the channel tunnel and all that this is doing is leaving us off the maps and probably the reasoble prices.
But people like to rile it up like we are missing out on some grand EU mega plan that is going to save the world. The EU has plenty of problems and is not some sort of nirvana. Would I rather be in the EU? Yes it is better to be part of something. However it is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and to be honest day to day it makes little difference to me. People in the UK are not crying into their union jack hankies, we have bigger problems like a completely corrupt and incompetent ruling class.
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The Trans-European Transport Project has been ongoing since the '90s.
And since I was curious, here are the new guidelines adopted last week. Nothing revolutionary but an evolution in the right direction. I do find it personally interesting that the TEN-T apparently did not previously formally take into account military mobility...
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What's truly bullshit about this map is Hungary. To get anywhere, you have to go through Budapest and it's been like this since the last 150 years, when it comes to rail. Even though it has at least seven metropolitan areas outside of Pest county with population above 100k... NOPE! You have to go through two of the three major railway stations of Budapest.
What's worse is say you are a local to Hungary and you live east of the Danube. You want to visit Lake Balaton in the west. You have to take the train to Budapest. You then transfer by Metró to the other railway station. And then take another train to the lake. Three fares and two transfers, which might be fine as an individual but adds up in costs and stress if you are with family or have accessibility needs. And by accessibility needs I'm just talking about being elderly (who mostly travel free or at a very reduced rate) or a stroller.
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Are those tunnels to ireland?
Under the water?
Are people not sketched out by that? That sounds terrifying
The floating tunnels weren't working out so well
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Pfft, they're lucky the French don't bomb their end of the chunnel.
Knowing the french they are just waiting for the UK to look at them wrong so they can do that. After a few weeks of rioting of course.
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I see two arrows leading into the UK. One across the channel and the other into NI, FFS.
Don't like those arrows pointing at the UK, feels a bit Dad's Army.
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The channel tunnel exists so already a direct link and all the usage without having to pay for it? Abit of a win really
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