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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 69 points 10 months ago (6 children)

"Courses" is a strong word for what Duolingo offers. It just shows you flashcards, but never explains grammar/syntax rules. Lingodeer is far superior.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Perdonally I've heard a ton of good things about Language Transfer despite not using it myself

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for sharing this it looks great. They’re iOS app requires minimal permissions too which seems to be rare for language apps

[–] LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the recommendation! Difficult to find genuine and good language apps these days that don't cost to much money and or are riddled with ads and intrusive tracking.

[–] frosty99c@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I really noticed my Spanish improved after watching videos on Dreaming Spanish link

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[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Duolingo does have that function. It's much more obvious on desktop web, but in the phone app, you tap the notebook icons to the right of the headings. I mean, they're not necessarily excellent explanations, but they're there.

[–] Belazor@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They removed that feature, at least for Finnish.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

They removed the comment section a few months ago too. There were some really excellent explanations in there!

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

You might say that feature is finnished

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fascinating that Duolingo tries to teach Navajo. The language is incredibly tonal and with sounds not native to most languages. I imagine it's incredibly difficult to teach through an online service

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Idk how duolinguo works (at all), but if the app can play the sounds for you and judge on your pronunciation, that would be quite enough to do the job. If it can handle mandarin (idk if it can) than any tonal based language is fair game.

I would think any decent speech to text could do a decent job determining pronunciation, if there isn’t a dedicated thing for that.. either it registers or it gets garble and you try again.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I almost found a way to get university credit for learning Klingon. My downfall was that the Klingon Language Institute was not an "accredited" learning institution. I wonder if that's changed yet…

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Try the Khan Academy next time.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago
[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 7 points 10 months ago

Duolingo probably has an accreditation programme by now, considering most high schools use it.

[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

High Valerian also doesn't have all the ingredients to become an actual language. All I did was translate words in sentences into the language for the show, but Klingon, it is an actual language and has been developed enough that you can call it a language

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[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Language learning apps work only to give you an overview over a language, to look if a language is worth learning. You really wanna learn? Search for someone who's mother tongue it is in your vicinity and contact him. You'll be surprised, how much fun that'll be, your friendly Klingon in the neighborhood, crashing your door in at 3 a.m., hellish drunk, just to show you his new Gagh recipe, or you'll find yourself as a slave in the fictional world of an obese old creep. Learning new languages is awesome, right?

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[–] dimath@ttrpg.network 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But still no European Portuguese 😠

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 14 points 10 months ago

Prolly more people who want to learn elvish than European Portuguese. Oh, leaderboards

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Last time I looked it still did a weird mix of American and European Spanish, too

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It had me pick Latin American or Castilian Spanish when I started using Duolingo, I couldn’t tell you exactly how accurate it was though.

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

When was that? Last time I tried it was a couple of years ago.

As for the difference, outside of Spain the conjugation of Vosotros (you, plural) isn't used, but speaking to strangers is much more formal. Also, there's a lot of vocabulary differences which can be confusing for non-native speakers.

Good luck with your learning, it's a great language :-)

[–] Stoney_Logica1@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As somebody who doesn't naively speak Latin American Spanish but was exposed to it a lot growing up, the "th" sound for some words with "c" (like "gracias") in Castilian Spanish really disturbs me. It sounds like everybody has a lisp.

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[–] BlessedDog@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wtf is European Portuguese, Portugal is in Europe.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wtf is British English, England is in Britain.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

🇬🇧: English (Traditional)

🇺🇸: English (Simplified)

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[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's brazilian Portuguese

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[–] rab@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago

I'm waiting for them to add Icelandic

[–] BB69@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also courses for the language of the imaginary land of Finland.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i wish they would spend more time fixing vietnamese instead of shit like this

[–] original2@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just get a cracked version of lingodeer

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[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Anyone know a good place to learn Farsi (Persian). Duolingo doesn't have it yet, if ever

[–] Aldn@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It's a real shame duolingo doesn't have Farsi (or none of the other apps I'm routinely using, for that matter). Let's hope it becomes a thing sooner than later

[–] GhostMatter@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I used Mondly fully free a few years ago. It was good. I don't know how it is now.

I also used Anki flashcards.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Still more native speakers than Navajo.

[–] Rambomst@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Does anyone happen to know of an app or site that is good for learning Tagalog?

[–] WhistlingGhost@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The app Tandem (Language Exchange) has Tagalog as an option! It's a pretty cool app. It connects you to native speakers so that they can have conversations with you and help you learn your chosen language.

[–] Rambomst@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Thanks. I will check it out.

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[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm still hoping for a course in Mando'a.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm unsure if there's enough words for it to count as a full spoken language yet.

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[–] draedron@lemmyhub.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can I put it on my resume?

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

I saw a resume with just 'Military Spouse: 27 Years' on it.

You can put whatever you want.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

But does it do Mando'A?

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Many asteroids and Kuiper Belt objects discovered by the Keck telescope, on the big island, have been given Hawaiian names, adding to the very few words I knew before, like aloha, mahalo, pahoa'hoa and a'a, the last two being types of lava, either runny or crumbly.

[–] BulbasaurBabu@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

‘Okina only precede vowels and I think you're confused about pahoahoa, it's pahoehoe. Good job on a‘a, though!

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Let me know when they get Phyrexian

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I can't find Doolish anywhere on the list though.

Oh wait, that language doesn't exist.

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