The bad kid with a gun could have been stopped by a good kid with a gun, duh!
this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
205 points (98.1% liked)
News
23275 readers
3437 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Sometimes those people are children. But it’s still not the guns fault, obviously. The same thing would have happened if the nine year old child, who had no ill intentions, had a knife instead. Everyone knows it’s just as easy to accidentally stab someone to death as it is to pull a trigger. Happens every day in the EU, I assure you. So many accidentially fatal stabbings by children over the years.
/s in case it wasn’t obvious.
How the children obtained guns remains a part of the ongoing investigation, according to the Sheriff’s office.
I bet it's one of the parents or a close relative that didn't properly store their gun.
When are they going to start throwing people in jail for this?
Short of someone outright giving the child the gun, that’s the only option left. If a 9 year old can get to a gun, it’s improperly stored no matter where it is.
That's true but in these cases has the gun actually ever been properly stored in a locked safe and the kid nicked the key or something?
As a gun owner, that’s still improper storage.
Other than my personal carry which stays on my person (or a quick open safe in my nightstand when I’m sleeping), the rest of mine are locked in a safe unloaded, with their magazines stored in a different smaller safe.
If my kids were able to get to the guns, they pose no damage. They would need to be able to get into both safes and intentionally load them to pose any threat to anything.
And which of these precautions are you legally required to take?
Thanks for the insight.
If that's the case probably not charge. I'm sure that's happened at some point. But kids are playing with guns that are just left out in a lot of these cases and for those, yeah, maybe someone should face charges.
Yep mistakes happen of course but most if not all of the time it's just neglect.
The statistical probability of this happening is probably not zero, however, it is still probably remote in the extreme. Even if it were to happen, however, as someone else pointed out: that would still be considered improper storage, because the point is that nobody but a responsible adult should be able to get to it, especially not children. 
Just another murderer armed by just another legal gun owner. It's only noteworthy here because of the extremely young age of the murderer, not because "responsible gun owners" seldom arm people who shouldn't have guns.
Lol
This could have been prevented if the 6 year old was armed!
Just another Tuesday in America.
Now the children are shooting each other, just as our fore fathers intended.
Take a bow conservatives…. This one’s on you.
The incident is not the first involving a young child and a gun in recent months. In Virginia, the mother of a 6-year-old who police say intentionally shot his first-grade teacher pleaded guilty to child neglect on Tuesday.
In July, a 17-year-old boy was arrested and charged with murder after shooting a 14-year-old to death in East Harlem.
Gun violence remains a leading cause of death among Americans. In 2023, more than 26,000 people have died from gunshot wounds, according to the Gun Violence Archive.
In Philly in July, a 14 yr old with intellectual disabilities accidentally shot her 2 year old cousin with an unsecured gun.
...looking for 2023 data, will update when found.
Gun Violence Archive is not friendly to VPN...
...https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2023/
United States Death Statistics by Cause 2023
.*.Covid-19 related deaths are included in influenza.
.*.Beside these major causes of death, 413,888 people died 2023 for other reasons.
.*.Zero death for a cause means the data for the accurate number of deaths is not available at the moment.
Heart disease deaths 385,952
Cancer deaths 322,945
Chronic lower respiratory diseases deaths 62,120
Stroke deaths 98,637
Alzheimer's disease deaths 60,553
Diabetes deaths 68,343
Poisoning deaths 43,844
Kidney disease deaths 30,866
Influenza and Pneumonia deaths 207,784
Suicide deaths 27,489
Homicide deaths 11,103
Liver disease deaths 25,755
Respiratory disease deaths 25,630
Fall deaths 23,566
Firearm deaths 22,981
Septicemia deaths 23,944
Car accident deaths 21,727
Renal disease deaths 21,228
Parkinson's disease deaths 20,501
HIV/AIDS deaths 2,917
edit: format
Gun Violence Archive.
How the children obtained guns remains a part of the ongoing investigation
... It might be bunnies?
Bunnies aren’t just cute like everyone supposes. They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses, and what’s with all the carrots? What do they need such good eyesight for anyway?
I was hoping for a LockPickingLawyer video of him opening up a gunsafe with a fucking pube or something.
LockPickingLawyer, friend of gun-violence apologists everywhere.
"Yeah, dude, I gotta own a gun to protect myself in case aliens attack! Don't worry, nothing bad will happen, it won't be normalized in our society or something!"
WILD guess, but I am going to say this happened in the US!?
We still don't know if that 6 year old had the legal authority or authorizing paperwork to have that nickname.
Don't break the law and you won't face consequences.
/s for those of you who don't get sarcasm.
Being six years old doesn't mean that he's not allowed to defend himself, I see no problem here.
More than 26,000 people have died from gunshot wounds this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive.
I used to accept that I'd likely get cancer if I lived long enough…
view more: next ›