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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 144 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plaintiff are seeking up to $43m in damages in defamation case and Giuliani’s lawyer tells court it would ‘be the end’ of him if he loses

So the lawyer is saying the justice system is working as intended?

[–] bestnerd@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see this as an absolute win

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Me too, and I love the "if you punish my client, it will be bad for him" argument. That's clearly the sign of a good lawyer.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

It's the best argument he's got, and can you blame him? There isn't a lawyer alive who could win this for old ink scalp. His only hope is a stacked court.

[–] bestnerd@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This should be taught in law school in Trial Law 101: best defense

“Your honor, this verdict is horrible for my client. Move for a mistrial.”

“Ah good point, didn’t think of that. Wouldn’t want to inconvience this man. Granted”

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago (8 children)

The dildo of consequences is approaching rapidly, and he's fresh out of lube.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

gotta be careful. even a back-pat can kill him, you know.

(also... be extra mindful of safe sex. fucking this guy is how you catch all the STDs... and some new and interesting ones.)

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

Only his family members have to worry about STDs from him.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 68 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Good time for Giuliani to find those bootstraps to pull himself up. Maybe cut back on the avocado toast and Netflix. If he has a phone on him, means he's won't be poor and bankrupt, just lazy.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Four Seasons Total Landscaping

[–] FriendOfElphaba@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

He was just tucking his shirt in.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Still the funniest press conference in world history.

And it was incredible before Giuliani found out live that the election was called.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

A jury decision awarding tens of millions of dollars in damages for defamation would be a “death penalty” for Rudy Giuliani, his lawyer said during opening statements in a trial that got underway Monday.

Hand me the soap, I need to cry a few tears for him.

Well, if it ruins him, it works as intended. He put them through hell and back with his lies, now it's ample time he pays up. I mean, it should suite him, as he is such a law and order guy.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, he’ll lose everything and become working class again! The death of a bourgeois! You can’t do this, judge! He’s supported to be protected by the system! 😱

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not like wealthy people ever go broke anyways. Look at Alex Jones, owes millions in judgments but is still spending to the tune of 100k a month, and still making million and is on tv, etc. How is that broke and how is he not being forced to live in a trailer park till his judgments are paid? Any one of us owes money, they'll put you on the streets, literally, to get their money. But rich people get to go on being rich, even when they owe millions.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I understand why debtor's prisons are a bad thing for poor people. But, it does make me wish that rich people could end up locked up if they were unable to pay debts, especially when the debts are the result of fraud, defamation, and other crimes against innocent people.

Maybe sentence them to living in a halfway house with an ankle monitor on until they can pay what they owe. During the day they get to rant on their internet shows and try to drum up money. But, at night they have to report back to the halfway house and deal with their roommates and so-on.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, why sentence them to anything? Seize their assets and garnish their wages until the debt is paid.

It's what happens to everyone else.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

That works for The Poors. But, rich people can easily get around that.

"That Lamborghini? It's not mine, it belongs to a corporation housed in the virgin islands which is owned by a numbered entity in Cyprus"

"Income? I don't have any. But, this foreign bank was willing to loan me $200 million, which I'll definitely be repaying somehow."

"That expensive dinner in Paris? That was a gift from a close friend."

"That new flat screen TV? The non-profit I own is leasing it to me for $0 per month."

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

They are better at hiding their money, tying it up in investments, trusts, LLC's, etc. Most regular people don't have shell companies to mask their assets.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago

I'm sure his great friend Donald Trump will be happy to make Rudy whole; it's pocket change to the world's richest man!

[s/]

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 34 points 11 months ago

the time to consider whether you can serve the penalty for breaking the law is before you break the law, not after. if you don't have tens of millions of dollars, don't purposely cause tens of millions of dollars in damage.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 32 points 11 months ago

Not sure I see a problem here

[–] hoanbridgetroll@midwest.social 27 points 11 months ago

Fucked around and found out.

Can’t wait for his criminal convictions.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't see how this is a death sentence. Plenty of other people have gone bankrupt without dying.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Maybe Rudy shouldn't have said and done things that could cost him so much money then.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 24 points 11 months ago

As Republicans like to say: "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime".

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago

If I was the judge I'd interpret this as him having made suicidal threats to his council. And I'd place a psychiatric hold so he gets the help he apparently needs.

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Humanity won't miss him

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like former New York mayor's who aren't involved with defamation crimes.

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[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if he ever thought to himself, “Now how did I get here?”

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder he ever tells himself, "This is not my beautiful house."

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful ~~wife~~ cousin.”

[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe Uncle DonDon can spare him a bunk at Mar-a-lago.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago

First of all, bullshit lmao

Second of all, I'd be OK with that even if it wasn't bullshit: These treasonous assholes shouldn't be allowed to get away with their many, many crimes.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

This is the perfect reaction.

[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Eight jurors were seated in Giuliani’s defamation case. Jurors were asked several questions, including, “Do you believe that Joseph R Biden’s election as president of the United States in 2020 was illegitimate?” and “Have you ever used the phrase “Let’s Go Brandon” or the term or hashtag “WWG1WGA”?

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Careful not to put him under too much pressure or his hair will start leaking

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

According to his lawyer, who has been paid up front.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Wouldn't surprise me if he owed big money to the mob.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

I hope people in Trump's circle pay attention, because it will happen to you too

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was Rudy like this before his involvement with Trump? All the smart people are saying that Trump guy is a bad influence.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, he's always been like this.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago
[–] charonn0@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Even if true, so what?

Is that really something the judge is meant to consider?

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

~~wait... Ghoulliani is still allowed to pracetice law?!~~

(reading is hard, okay? I thought this said Ghoulliani told the court his client would be facing the death sentence. Still. he's a greasy shit stain)

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