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This iconic mouse is weeks away fromn being in the public domain Jan. 1, 2024, is the day when 'Steamboat Willie' enters the public domain

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If Disney doesn't keep illegally extending the copyright dates, continuing to ruin the way copyrights are supposed to actually work, I will legitimately be surprised.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not illegal if you change the laws... 🙃

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But if you change the laws via illegal means...

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure that Congress passing legislation concerning interstate trade is expressly permitted in the Constitution. You could make an argument for ethics, practicality, or economics. I don't think you can make a legality argument here.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Even if they wanted, there is not much time left to change anything at this point

[–] jmd_akbar@aussie.zone 20 points 11 months ago

Not with that attitude...

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 74 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

(sigh) Just a little bit longer and I'll finally be able to release my Steamboat Willy tentacle hentai comic.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Where do I sign up

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

Title suggestion: Minnie and the Invasive Kraken

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Donald Duck’s copyright expires in 2029 and we’ll finally be able to walk around pantsless in a sailor hat/shirt without being harassed by Walt Disney’s widow.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Is that why the police keeps harassing me?

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

EXPECT legislative-shenanigans, people...

EITHER they'll extend copyright again,

XOR they'll just "conveniently" have copyright apply in court, even-though it doesn't apply on-paper.


Never believe a career-criminal, or Dark Triad entity, has changed, unless you see robust, consistent, years-long, actual, objective proof of that change having-happened.

Extraordinary-claims require extraordinary backing/evidence.

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They don't have to do any of those. They own most of the content pipe so anyone who wants to do their own spin on Mickey is going to be inherently limited on their publishing reach.

Plus with all the acquisitions they've made, the copyright to Mickey and other legacy characters is worth a much smaller portion of their empire.

And they still own the TM.

Basically I'm regurgitating a rather good video recently published by Corridor Crew so go here for more facts and fewer hacks: https://youtu.be/u2dIvUAd5QE?si=IK5wOEpSDOPyIwJz

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

I dont have kids so I can't speak to the ubiquity of Mickey Mouse - but was Mickey Mouse Funhouse or The Wonderful world of Mickey Mouse even that popular?

Frozen and Toy Story are their biggest sellers, it might not even be that bad for them to lose Mickey.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I recall an article on Ars Technica, I think from 2017?, talking about how Disney and other big corpos weren't moving pieces to give copyright law yet another push into infinity. The main reasoning was that, unlike the previous times it did (the last one being early 90s), the resistance would be real and vocal, with a possible side effect being a lawmaker reaching the conclusion that "no piece of shit deserves or needs this much time protected by copyright", starting to work in reducing copyright protection

Keep in mind, folks, that we'll only have public access to Mickey and Minnie as they're displayed on Steamboat Willie. Any other versions are still no-go.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Keep in mind, folks, that we'll only have public access to Mickey and Minnie as they're displayed on Steamboat Willie. Any other versions are still no-go.

For now... That's just because he was the first iteration of the character. The others will also age into it as time goes on.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this why they pivoted to using Steamboat Willie in their pre-roll - to pull it under trademark as copyright expires?

Seems it'll still be illegal, just for different reasons.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to trademark the character, since the mouse is very iconic

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'd say you can count on it.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

. Later forms of the mouse, including the iconic white-gloved version with red shorts, will still be protected by copyright, according to The New York Times.

WTF is this shitty loophole? "Well, we changed his clothes, that's a whole new different character!" This makes no sense. Copyright should be abolished.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

Public domain can get weird. The works of Mozart are obviously public domain. But if I record myself performing some of them, that recording is copyrighted. It doesn't stop you from doing the same, which would also be copyrighted. Now let's say I add a few of my own touches to my performance- which would be a derivative work. You cannot copy those in your own performance without my permission. In effect, it's the changes themselves that are copyrighted.

Once I've made my recording, you can face an uphill battle to prove that you either didn't know about mine, or that it was so obvious that it wasn't creative.

All of this ignores trademark law, which is related but distinct.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Copyright should be abolished.

Completely agree, not just copyrights but patents too.

Open environments are way more productive and creative then lock stuff for decades.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

I guarantee that on January 1st there will be a ton of Mickey videos on the internet and it will be glorious

[–] hark@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I'm shocked no legislation has been created to increase copyright even longer, but I guess there's still time. Maybe with non-disney mickey mouse works out there, their lawyers will argue that it is damaging and thus a new law should be passed retroactively.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Over Walt’s cold dead body.

uhhhhh… wait, hang on I didn’t mean that

[–] TALL421@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

No need to get hot headed about this

[–] AbaixoDeCao@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

I didn't see here the obvious answer: never.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Now I can finally colorize the one cartoon that counts.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

When I say so.