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[–] athos77@kbin.social 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“I’m very proud of Gov. DeSantis and everything he’s done. I really am,’’ said Gonzmart, a lifelong Republican. “[...] But my concern is the governor putting in a law that says those who have an expired driver’s license cannot renew it because they’re no longer legal. They cannot work. Their papers are no longer legal.”

It's not that "they're no longer legal". They were never legal. You just thought it didn't matter.

Also, what happened to all that wailing about how we need to get rid of all the "illegal immigrants" because "they took our jobs"?

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Guess they're cheaper if you can blackmail them for being undocumented

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Well not MY illegals. Those OTHER illegals need to go! Not mine. Mine are different.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it actually a crime to deliberately hire undocumented immigrants in Florida. I'm sure it is.

Why is this guy drawing attention to the fact that he committed a crime?

[–] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago

Seems like he's already been fined $500,000, so probably not worried about the legal consequences anymore.

I am pretty sure there's also IRS issues and possibly other federal law implications, but who are we to keep him from slamming his body parts in doors?

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Do these people ever reflect and think about what they're about to do, do or have done? It's baffling how they're surprised.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, they don't. We had Brexit. It was a smörgåsbord of stupid like that.

"We want freedom of movement cancelled so EU folks can't come in here, "followed by "What do you mean we don't have freedom of movement and can't just live in Spain?"

"All immigrants gone!" followed by "why are there no cheap immigrants anymore for working in the field and drive trucks?"

"Close the borders!" and "Why is there suddenly this long line and why do we need custom checks and passports?"

"After we made it more difficult for foreigners to come here, we have less tourists. Somebody do something!"

"When we said you can't fish here, we meant we can still fish over there."

"Yeah, I know we cancelled all cooperation but we really would like the subsidies to continue."

You can keep going. There were enough predictions that this was exactly what would happen, it was ignored in emotional flurry, ideologies and name calling. Of course there is a lot of "why didn't anyone warn us?" afterwards. I conclude they're not really thinking, just mostly reacting emotionally and going along with the peer group who has a very high "F U I got mine" content.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

The most comical thing about "reasons" for Brexit was to get rid of those "pesky brown people". Then Brexit uninvited Europeans, and the UK got more "brown people" out of the commonwealth to fill up the gaps.

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes, but I'd expect them to learn at some point. But they keep being idiots.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are stuck in ideology and emotional reactions. There is a concentrated effort to keep it that way with propaganda masquerading as news, usually owned by Murdoch.

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other people are as well but manage to stop and think about it. I'm not sure if you're giving them too much credit.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have the impression it's more like people susceptible to gambling addiction and they're opening a casino next door.

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yet they think others should take responsibility for their own actions.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you to a certain degree. They have been deceived and those people need to be stopped. But some of the shame should be granted to the deceived as well, as they fall over and over for the same shit.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

See, this is how people end up being in favour of eugenics.

It's not that stupid people exist, it's that they keep being stupid, and bafflingly self-destructive, even after their stupidity is demonstrably demonstrated to them.

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm in favour of education. There was a time when people lacking education strived to close the gap and become a better version of themselves. I'm not sure how we lost that, but I want it back. I'm not only talking about school. People went to classes after work, read about new stuff and invested into themselves.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Social media broke us. Instead of seeking to learn and become better, idiots seek likes and retweets. And they get it.

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank god I'm not one of them.

Please leave a like and subscribe. And take a look at my new merch "not one of them" and become one of us!

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Haha. This was very funny.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"This is all useless bullshit!!" "How will learning history and science pay my bills?! Or pay my rent?!"

All they care about is doing the bare minimum to skate by. They don't really want to participate in society or life. They need to be put out to pasture -- given a tiny eco house on a quarter acre of land somewhere, sent food boxes once or twice a week, left to fend for themselves and, most importantly, not allowed a say in politics anymore.

Education HAS to be a requirement to vote and education guidelines and cirricula have to be hard encoded in the next Constitution or equivalent we make. Have AIs anonymously test everybody to prevent discrimination. Have people hand-write exams or dictate into a microphone for oral exams to prevent cheating

I don't care if people don't like it, it's the truth. "It can be abused" is no longer an excuse in a system that has been broken specifically because of the lack of such a policy. Democracy only works when the population is educated, but the people don't want to be educated, so you have to either force them or have an academic ruling class run everything.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It's the lost-cause fallacy. They're incapable of self reflection because it could compromise their entire identity/beliefs.

Talk to anyone who worked in hospitals during the height of COVID. All of them encountered people gasping for air as their lungs filled with covid pneumonia, on their death beds insisting they did not have covid, and it was all a government conspiracy. Even on their deathbeds, these people still cannot accept reality.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering how many "save the children" QAnoners that turn out to be pedophiles? No.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Or how many "Family first" Republicans beat their wives or cheat on them? No.

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They see an R next to someone's name and that's all they think about

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's short for "really good", right?

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Close. Righteous and Devil

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Do these people ever reflect and think about what they’re about to do, do or have done?

Right-wing media always has another scapegoat to deflect the blame.

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[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You cant expect conservative voters to know the policies they are voting for, they cant read.

[–] zib@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

If those Republicans could read, they'd be very upset right now.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would like to point out that this guy is hispanic (probably Cuban) and is a Republican. I know far, far too many people online think that only white people are Republican, which is clearly not the case.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this guy is hispanic (probably Cuban)

Lots of Cuban anti-communists who came over in the wake of the revolution and made it their mission to support the most fanatical far-right candidates Florida had to offer. Consequently, a handful of these guys have made a ton of money working for the wealthy right-wing plutocrats that control the state, but everyone else has watched their quality of life disintegrate as the social foundations of Florida are dissolved by wave after wave of bigots and crooks in high office.

In another generation or two, we'll see the grandchildren of the Batista refugees rising up Castro-style.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah we know there are plenty of dumb tokens.

[–] visak@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more than that. Cubans in Florida have been a very reliable Republican voting block for a long time. They bonded over their hatred of Castro. The Cuban business base in Florida started with wealthy people who fled Cuba. Now it's on to second and third generation born in the US.

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

They turned libertarian immediately

"I figured it out, so should they"

[–] crwcomposer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True, but Cubans are the only Hispanic group I know of that lean Republican as a whole.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It's because they had terrible experiences under Castro and vehemently hate communism. Since they believe the lies that the Democrats are communist or socialist, they default to the "conservative" party.

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[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Good. Fuck this guy. Fucking piece of shit for voting for DeSantis anyway.

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someday, Republicans will realize the main enemy of Republicans are republican voters

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

assholes like that never learn.. they just keep charging full speed down Asshole Lane.. just to be first..

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bet he doesn't even blame DeSantis!

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

"It's those damn woke liberals ruining everything!"

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

"Sometimes in the war of woke there are casualties"

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Look at that vacant, toddler smile...

"Your feet are plotting to kill you... shoot yourself in the feet if you want to live!!!"

[–] DaveFuckinMorgan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What is it, do you guys want higher wages and worker protections? Or undocumented immigrants? Pick one.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You could simply document the immigrants and incorporate them into large labor coalitions auctioning their work at market rates.

Instead, we have a system of paying workers under-the-table at below market rates, while using their illegal status as leverage to prevent them from negotiating for better pay.

So you need a legal system for migration before you can get higher wages and worker protections. Otherwise, you'll always have a reserve army of scabs in the form of undocumented residents.

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is by design

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

Don't migrants tend to get exploited and end up doing the crap jobs that nobody else is willing to do but need to be done anyway?

[–] chem_bpy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I just find humor in the hypocrisy of Republicans. Especially when it inevitably backfires on them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That would only be funnier if it was his own family that he brought over.

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