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Probably had to be extra careful to test. MDM software software might get glitched out.

I'm really curious about how it was detected, how it was different from Apple devices. If nothing else I'm looking forward to reading about how that all worked.

We're literally on a platform designed to escape these closed ecosystems and walled gardens. A platform built around open communication standards.

And still there's a downright bizarre contingent of people around here that seem to be chomping at the bit to defend or downplay Apple's iMessage shit.

I read that it was a 16 year old kid which makes it more fascinating

yeah people should use this a a filter for people they should be avoiding.

This reminds me of the blackberry ping days, everyone and their mom acting like a diva for having a sidekick blackberry just to use ping.

Those were better days financially.

Yes had a business owner come in and demand all employee phones be iPhone or get out. Jobs was his personal hero and thought Apple could do no wrong. The issue was the company he bought was run on software made for Windows. A lot of extra effort went into making it work on macbooks he insisted we all use.

In the end he believed he was as great as Jobs. Not sure that's a great role model across the board for those that know more than just the apple procducts. The family values and toxic *work practices were not for everyone.

I was glad to get out of that company and back to my android phone and now Linux computing.

I will say the 3 good things about my iPhone was the camera, the full resolution media sharing with other iPhone users via iMessage, and the gallery uploading to other iOS devices.

The latter two are still a weakness with Google. At least they are addressing it with RCS but its still going to take time. Google photos has cloud back up but I've not really looked into how seamless the media backup to all android devices has been.

Apple has always been a closed ecosystem, doing things “their way”. When they only sold computers, it was a niche company, with a niche audience. Then they started selling music players and phones, and they became a popular company.

The blue vs green bubble is just an American problem, that still use SMS as their main messaging protocol. The rest of the world use messaging app, like WhatsApp. It’s truly fascinating watching these events from outside the US.

Remember this is the same company that has to either comply with the EU bridging regulation between messaging platforms or withdraw from the market.

Apple fanboys don't care one bit. As long as they can look cool and feel like part of the cool kids, they'll buy.

Money.

iPhone user here, because Apple likes money.

Scum company

Well, because it's Apple.

Because if they opened their walled off garden, there's a chance they might lose profit and if they do, their CEOs might not be able to afford their diamond studded swimming pools and solid gold Humvees. Those things don't grow on trees.

87% of teenagers use Apple

Do you mean US American teenagers, or North American teenagers, or who exactly? Surely that can't be global?

Saw a few comments in the initial threads about it confidently claiming Apple wouldn’t be able to keep Beeper Mini out since doing so would mess with iOS too.

Super weird to be so sure about that when they obviously didn’t know shit about it.

"It's installed by default and all my friends are on it" - 50% of Americans

They don't need to worry about the fact that the other half of Americans are not able to comfortably message them, or participate in group chats, because those are people poorer than them that they might not even want to interact with anyways. Some of them might even be not white.

This becomes even more extreme as ages become younger, with around 98% of college age students and younger having iPhones (this is obviously biased to higher income colleges in metropolitian area but the data is still useful). The peer pressure of not having an iPhone is genuinely incredible (trust me, i experience it). I have genuinely had people stop wanting to be friends with me once they learned I had an Android phone.

Apple has a monopoly so powerful that they influence the social circles of almost every grade schooler and college student in America. This is why they don't want to give it up.