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Had my first ride, did a stupid (lemmy.ml)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by datendefekt@lemmy.ml to c/motorcycles@lemmy.world

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Just this weekend I got my first bike - a Honda XL750 Transalp. Winter is coming where I live, so when I saw a blue sky, dry roads and temperatures just over 0, I thought I could have a little ride. But that wasn't the stupid, even though I forgot the keys after being completely suited up with thin jogging gloves and winter gloves.

There wasn't any stupid during the ride, although I forgot the keys again after putting on the two pairs of gloves after a little break. Or that I kept hitting the hazard lights by accident, or the high beams.

The stupid was when I got back and rolled into the driveway. I wanted to slowly roll in and park in front of the wall of the garage. Had the clutch pulled and apparently twisted my wrist to get my thumb on the kill switch. The motor revved up so loud it scared the whole family out the house and onto the porch, where they witnessed me rolling towards the wall, bumping into it because I was so startled I didn't remember to apply the brake and me falling very, very slowly and gently (almost with a certain grace, I hope) to the side.

As far as I could see, there's only a few scratches on the bar end and the peg. Whew! But, I was told I bumped hard enough that the rear wheel lifted into the air! Hope that the fork and frame are ok!

Was a real downer after the nice ride, but I guess it's true what I heard, that all riders fall at least once!

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's cool man, mistakes happen in the first year.

I dropped my work ID at a light and thinking I could get it, accidentally dropped the entire bike. Luckily she's quite old and also light, but man was I embarrassed while I knuckled the bike back upright. Guy in the car next to me just stared while I nervously laughed and said, "one of those days eh?". 😅

Real talk, your machine can hurt you. Glad your ride went ok, nothing serious happened. Any bike while running is kinda like electricity, try to play safely. Engine off and neutral if you gotta roll it around manually? If you have access to an MSF course (though that may be a solely US thing), I'd very strongly recommend it.

[–] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 8 months ago

I think MSF is a solely US thing, but there are for sure alternatives here in Europe. At least in my country to get a license you need to complete a certain number of hours with a certificied instructor, and they do teach different skills like body position, emergency braking, slow and high speed maneuvering, as well as eventually taking you out on the roads and practicing in a real commuting scenario.

One thing thats different (not sure if its not a law or its not enforced) is that each instructor will have different equipment. For example when I started lessons before covid cut them short right before my exam my then instructor would take me to a parking lot he had a deal with to use in the evening, and just had cones for exercises. My now instructor after I restarted post covid has a friend who has an events venue with a massive parking lot, cones, and even bluetooth communication devices for the helmets. So now we can communicate while im doing exercises and also while out on the roads... The amount of times I hear him in my ears yelling (in a joking way) "TRAFFIGATOOOOR" before I sheepishy switch it off is too damn high 😂

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

750 is a lot of CC for a first bike. Do carpark drills so you get used to the hardest part of riding; slow speed and manoeuvring. Especially that weight.

The bike only does what it's told to do.

But don't worry, you'll fuck up more. Accept it. Each time you'll get better and better. Not many riders out there that have a first bike and first few months free of physical (bike or themselves) and/or pride damage. Glad you shared. Just minimise the risk to others and train safely. Get better in no time 👍

[–] x2XS2L0U@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

I've thrown my bikes on their sides a few times. You get used to it :3

[–] x3i@lemmy.x3i.tech 8 points 11 months ago

No worries, started riding last year, fell twice during that season. Is a normal thing when you start out :)

One importantl thing: get boots with crush protection. Not crazy like enduro boots but sth resistant. I hurt my ankle at the second tip-over and could not ride for four weeks, very avoidable!

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Good old whiskey throttle. We all do it when new. Better to fall in the driveway.

[–] Squeak@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I think your first doing a stupid is buying a 750 for your first bike!

[–] Haphazard9479@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nothing wrong with a 750 for your first bike.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago

Depends on the 750.

This bike I think is definitely too much for a first bike. Tons of power and lots of potential for whiskey throttle.

But some of the cruiser 750s would make a good first motorcycle as they don't make lots of power. Something like a Honda Shadow 750 would be a great starter bike with a comfortable ride and enough power to keep up and have some fun but not overwhelming.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The question I ask when talking about that is "Could accidently releasing the clutch while giving it gas to move from a stop lead to whisky throttle", in this case it's a bike that does 0-60mph under 4 seconds so... Yeah...

My friend didn't believe me when I told her starting on a Honda Cbr500 was better than a Ninja 650 until she had that exact scenario happen that could have lead her to falling from an overpass had she been on a more powerful bike...

[–] Haphazard9479@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not all 750s can do 0-60 in under 4 sec. I've known guys that start out on low powered bikes and lose interest.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They must not have been that interested in the first place then, I started with a 200 before moving to a 650 then 700 then 1000 and my 200 is still one of my favorites!

If the only reason you want to ride is to go fast then you should own a track bike and then go for whatever size you want, you're not sharing the road with kids.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Hey man i had a 750 for my first bike. Never got into an accident, never had issues with power or control. It can be done ya know?

(My first bike was an '82 Virago lol)

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I'd say it wasn't really financially sound! I told my driving instructor that I was interested in the Transalp. He just shrugged. The bike is a bit lighter and has a little bit more power than the CB600F I had in the driving course. At least during the test drive I felt right at home on the Transalp!

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is a predominantly American Men's thing, as far as I can tell. Many get the biggest bike they can, fail to learn to control it, and then go around chest thumping.

Meanwhile the best rider I know, a professional test rider, spends his weekends teaching Moto Gymkhana on a 125.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A 750cc isn't that big of a bike... I started riding at 6 years old with a 50cc dirt bike but the bike I have now (and the last one I've ridden) is a 2300cc Triumph.

My first street bike was 550cc and my favorite street bike was a 1997 750cc Suzuki Intruder but it never felt like a big bike at all ... Certainly not compared to this Rocket 3.

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 0 points 11 months ago

You didn't go for a Boss Hoss? That Rocket must feel tiny.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Part of the reason bigger engines are desirable in the US is because to get anywhere other than local riding you're going to be on quite a bit of long straight highway at high speeds. I can drive for 15 hours straight at highway speeds and still not leave my state.

A 250 will be absolutely tapped out to the point of being unsafe because you have no reserve power. And that seems unnecessarily hard on the vehicle.

A 500 will typically be usable but uncomfortable because it'll still be high in the rev range and vibrating.

On the longer stretches doing maybe around 75mph I even find myself wishing my 800GS could chill at some lower RPMs (currently around 5k maybe a bit more at those speeds), whereas my brothers 1400 with 2/3 the horsepower of mine just chugs along at those speeds (no tach but I think about 3200rpm is what I calculated and that sounds about right). When I pass him he says mine sounds like a mosquito.

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Except that OP is in the UK.

While you might want to go in straight lines most of the time being able to handle corners first is a good idea, plus things like emergency brake and swerve techniques to avoid accidents ... the European test only checks if you can emergency brake from 30mph, stopping from 75 with enough technique to feel like your eyeballs are being sucked out of your skull takes practice.

Hell, I remember one American on Reddit who swore up and down that you shouldn't use the front brake to emergency stop - for people who really love motorbikes extra training is a must, and that starts with a small bike you can drop a lot while learning how to use the whole tire and how to handle a bike when the front wheel locks, etc.

Edit: as for your BMW, why not just add a tooth to front sprocket?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

"hope the fork and frame are ok"

Don't worry, it's a motorcycle made for it

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You sound like a mess. Take some time to learn your machine. Not in a driveway and not in freezing temps. It's clear you need to take the MSF course.

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I feel like one, too. I took a course for the unrestricted A license here in Europe, so I had a few rounds in an empty park swerving around traffic cones. I think the problem was that I was using the thick winter gloves for the first time and kept fat-fingering.

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you're in Europe and passed your A test you're about ready to start learning how to actually handle a small bike.

Get extra instruction, and start doing Moto Gymkhana. Consider getting a cheap small and light bike like a CBF250 or Duke 125, and learn to really master it.

Your instructor probably shrugged when you said you were getting a TransAlp because he knew there was no point in telling you not to. He's seen umpteen people pass their test and then go out and crash right away.

[–] dunz@feddit.nu 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

European tests requires you to be quite good at both high and low speed(along with a theoretical test, and a test in traffic) maneuvering with the bike size you're getting your license for. Unrestricted is at least 650CC and at least and 40kW or more. You're not passing the tests if you're not adept at maneuvering the bike.

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

I'm well aware of what the European test requires, since I have a European license.

It teaches the bare basics to be on the road and not die on a normal sized bike. It is the starting point from which to learn how to handle a bike properly.

If someone has just taken their test they are not ready to handle a 650 to it's full potential, never mind a tall 750 like the new TransAlp. Getting a smaller bike and finding out how to scrape the pegs at 30kph in Moto Gymkhana is a good start for the road, for adventure riding trials is the best.

[–] DoomsdaySprocket@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Learning to ride in the winter isn’t ideal, you’ll probably have a hard time gaining the muscle memory to ride properly.

I’m still struggling with some things after my last winter commuting, as a new rider and having done training. Having the rear tire slip out daily while leaning has turned me into a chicken-strip generating machine.