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"As always, the paying user has the worst experience."
So true.
Now THAT is stealing.
Alright, what this looks like is Sony's deal with Discovery to sell and host their TV shows has been removed. From my quick glance there are no games being removed.
Still is BS, and beyond ridiculous. But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.
I am more pissed that I got informed that they are doing this from here instead of being told that I am losing my Myth Busters.
But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.
If you believed this, wtf would you ever give them your money to begin with???
Because it was 2009, I was I kid, and I saw Mythbusters and I said yes. I learnt my lesson when they remove PlayStation Video years ago from PS3, and the PSP. I didn't even know I could re-download it until I stumbled upon it in a menu years later.
I am just hoping and praying that this will not extend to their games. Sony's been pretty good about game ownership to this point, look at those who bought the PT Demo and can still play it.
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And this is why I never “buy” media online. If I can’t own the media and enjoy the content whenever and wherever I want, it’s rented. I may be ok with that, but I never let them claim that it was a sale.
Buy it for the convenience and for the good Devs, pirate it after if they try taking it away. You already paid for it
Exactly.
It's much the same as creators in Second Life who don't want to sell in the Opensim metaverse. I get where they're coming from in terms of protecting a recurring revenue stream, but if the customer has already paid for the product once, under first sale doctrine, they have the right to continue using it.
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"But you only ever owned a usage-license, which we now suspended" strawman argument incoming.
Well duh, then i don't have "buyed" but rented it. Usage of those terms by platforms should be sued as misleading.
I look forward to the class action suit, and the $14 check I'll get in the mail.
Modern consoles are a scam.
Yeah, I stopped buying'em when they started charging for 2nd internet.
Fucking rubes ruin everything I swear lol.
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Like.... They're straight up taking it back? No refunding? That is so asinine.
"We sincerely thank you for your continued support."
Not only are they not refunding, They seem to think you might purchase something else from them in the future.
Even Google was giving people full refunds for all games that were bought on Stadia when they gave up on that. I can't imagine that the total refunds would even be that bad for Sony given the increases they made for PSN prices. Would at least come across as at least pretending to "do right" to keep some level of trust from the people that have been buying non-game media from them. It would all be just a PR thing with some loss of current money for future money. Maybe even just offer a free amount of credit for getting some shows/movies from the Sony owned studios.
But since Sony is currently the number one, they will keep on their fuck shit until Microsoft or Nintendo are able to pull some big push. Playstation really only does kind of cool shit for customers when they aren't in the lead.
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And idiots will do it, too.
Because most people will still continue to buy things.
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That's one reason why Piracy will always exist, am I right?
It’s why it must exist.
Fucking assholes. This is why piracy is justifiable, and in some cases, even necessary.
God, I hope these bastards get sued 'cause little doubt they won't be refunding the poor schmos who've just been robbed of their property.
I'm sure they covered this in the terms of service that they know no one ever reads.
In many countries that wont work. The Terms of service need to only include reasonable and expectable clauses, as they are not negotionable.
And "purchase doesnt mean ownership, we take it from you anytime we want" is neither reasonable nor expectable.
Also this should run under criminal fraud imo. The customers were deliberately deceived by the term "purchase" into believing they would be granted ownership.
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To be fair, Sony might go for that. This is incredibly embarrassing for them as well, and it does erode the trust in their service which is really important for a marketplace like this. Sony will be handing out coupons probably, but this is still damage to their brand.
This won't change until someone sells a yacht to a Senator with fine print that it's only a perpetual license. Then comes back 3 years later and takes the yacht citing the fine print in the contract.
If I’m to believe I own the crap I buy that’s digital delivery, then if they want to take it back, they need to buy it from me at my price.
If I purchased it, do I get store credit for losing what I bought?
That's funny. You should do stand-up
lol
Discovery Entitlements Affected Titles
As of 31 December 2023, due to our content licensing arrangements with content providers, you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed from your video library.
We sincerely thank you for your continued support.
Thank you,
PlayStation Store
Turns out you people didn't actually purchase it.
I wonder if anywhere in the "purchase" terms they included "while Sony holds the license to distribute."
I hate that "purchases" people make are restricted per platform. If I "purchase" a specific title it should be available on any and all platforms that serve that content. No one should be asked to purchase it on Sony. Apple, Netflix, Amazon, or whatever other shitty streaming service comes out.
As much as I think nfts are fucking retarded, this could be one of the few cases where that stupid digital receipt might make sense.
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I think when this happens you DO get a refund, (usually a coupon for the same service, but still). This is a situation where villanizing Sony would be, but not necessarily correct. Obviously they have no interest to remove previously purchased content from user libraries. (like this).
So the question is, on what possible grounds can a company change licensing AFTER sales have been made. This is the same fucking mess as with the soundtrack being retroactively removed from GTAIV. How is this legal?
just got my multi season science fiction show downloaded via the salty seas. apparantly it would cost $50-85 to download or stream from the "legit" vendor. A vendor that bought the rights and closed the ability to access previous seasons. So, not going well for the loyal customers.
almost like "purchasing" it was the real crime.
That list of shows that's being removed is huge too.
God I hope people reconsider purchasing products from companies that do these kind of things to them.
At some point you think if they get smacked up the side of their heads enough times that they will actually wake up and do something about it.
This is why i hate digital only and no more game disc, also battlepass and dlc.
you own nothing but pays the full price for the permission to play and they cant remove access at any time.-
Marvel vs capcom 2 its my favorite game and they removed from store, i know is about licensing but they will not come to my house for the DVD Disc right?
That's 1318 items, according to that table, counting by seasons. Insane.
Scrolling through the list I can't believe that people actually watch that shit, let alone pay for it.
It's all the kind of crap that people leave used to leave on in the background and to get bombarded with 4 sets of adverts an hour. The direct result of needing to fill 200 channels as cheaply as possible.
Refunding everyone would probably cost Sony less than a million. I'd wager some of those shows nobody has ever purchased.
You don't like it which is fine but no need to call out people who do. My dad loves deadliest catch and has been watching it for years, he records it and then fast forwards through the ad breaks something that's been around 10 years now.
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sony is going to steal
Some series have a weird pattern of deletion.
LA Ink | Season 1
LA Ink | Season 6
LA Ink | Season 7
Lolwut. Does it mean 2-5 are still availiable or they never were?
It's all Discovery Channel's properties, and it's a good day to rewatch their classics and seed them.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sony kind of has their hands tied on this one. The shows they’re delisting (or are not able to relicense) kind of get to take their IP off of the system, no?
I imagine that is the case, however they could refund it given the situation.
I get the feeling they won't allow refunds.
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If they didn't have a licence to host it in perpetuity, they shouldn't have sold it in the first place.
Yes, they should pull it if they legally have to. That's following the law. However, they should refund consumers in full or ensure that they continue to have the media without restrictions.
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