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As an outsider, I hope Palmeiras or Flamengo win.
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It's incredible how Botafogo fucked up the title. They could very well end up in 6. place.
They had the best 1st half of the league in history and are now having the second worst 2nd half only ahead of the already relegated America MG.
Goias also. 47 points in the first half and now 14 points from 15 😬
How did botafogo actual fuck the tittle? Werent' they like 12+ ahead at some point? Unreal bottlejob
Bottlefogo
They lost Luis Castro (who managed them in the first half of the season) to Al Nassr, Bruno Lage came in and they started to implode afterwards, he has been sacked already, but the matches they lost with him were the most crucial ones.
This is the problem with Portuguese managers, they use Brazil as a stepping stone. Of course Brazil have a good championship, is the same language (Portuguese) and they pay good money compared to most teams in Portugal outside the big 4 (Porto, Braga, Sporting and Benfica). Any Brazil team need to put a huge release clause because of this.
Lost the long term coach and now they are playing under their 5th coach in the league.
is it always 4 teams relegation?
Always has been 🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀🌌
yeah it's brutal
Yes. It’s a lot better than only relegating 3 teams.
My hot take is that there should be 6 teams relegated. So that some teams play in the Sul Americana while in Serie B.
Well, teams can actually play in Libertadores whilst in Serie B by winning Copa do Brasil. Happened to Palmeiras once.
Santo André and Paulista won Copa do Brasil in 2004 and 2005. Both was Série B teams at time.
All time choke by Botafogo
And we have about 7 teams fighting for a relegation spot too.
Bahia 😭
My porreta 😭
Dale gremio!
Never even heard of Bratangino
Red bull bulshit
They are an old kinda traditional club that got bought and became a new red bull bitch
Nothing against them, they just have a very small fanbase but are very well-managed. They had a very good football director that just signed with Monaco
...and a very good manager. I bet Palmeiras go for him if Abel leave.
? Are you talking about the guy who flopped everywhere except Bragantino in the past decade
How an 8th place team managed to win the copa is beyond me.
They sacrificed games in the league to rest players for the Libertadores. Almost every team does it.
Yep. And they dont give a shit about the brazilian league right now.
It's pretty common for the teams who go further into the Libertadores to sacrifice the Brazilian League since our calendar is insane and most teams don't have enough players to keep the same level on both competitions. Palmeiras in 2021 finished 7th for example and Flamengo last year finished 20 points behind the winner
Brazilian teams that go far in the Cups end up playing around 70 games or even more.
Brazil is also a really big country and most clubs can't afford to have a big squad filled with quality players so they end up focusing in one competition when they aren't close to winning the league title.
3 points in the last 21 is some insanely bad form, what the hell happened to Botafogo...
Botafogo have somehow connived to still not win in 5. Wow
- They are winless in 7.
Showing solidarity with Union Berlin.
Damn, I was really hoping for Botafogo to win. They had such a nice lead
Botafogo is literally me in Football Manager
We in need for a Bottle Job Cup.
Arsenal, Botafogo, BVB, you can put Marinos there too...
Get HSV in there too
Damn Gremio has some shit defense for a team in the title race.
We had the best defence players some years ago, when Kannemann (not playing well anymore), Geromel (retiring) and Grohe (transfered) were playing together. Today is almost just Suarez playing alone, he is trully carrying the team. One of the best attack and the worst defence in Brasileirão.
Suarez effect innit? See Liverpool in 13/14...
Crazy thing