Artix with OpenRC, Arch with alternative init systems.
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I've moved to Ubuntu after getting burned pretty badly with CentOS's getting mistreated and eventually killed. Ubuntu feels stable enough, both in terms of their updates/quality and in terms of their corporate proceedings (such that I won't get absolutely blasted by mandatory repos being closed down, for example).
Artix. I went Void -> Arch -> Artix. I can't help but feel that Artix is what Arch should be. Perfect blend between the Arch and Void experience.
I ran Artix for a while but went back to Arch. Maybe I missed something obvious, but it didn't seem like there was a nice way even to pacman -Syu on Artix because there were so many packages that were in both the Arch repositories and the Artix repositories. And you couldn't get away with only Artix repositories because there was so much they didn't have that the Arch repositories did have.
I assumed it was just that Artix kindof wasn't quite mature enough yet. But again, it's entirely possible I missed something obvious. I might well be interested to give Artix another try if so.
As far as I understand only Arch packages that depend on systemd need an Artix equivalent. You should be able to enable both Artix and Arch repos and everything should be fine, you should be able to run pacman -Syu without any problems. I never had problems in the last 3 years. If you tried it more than 3 years ago it might be a different story.
I prefer Arch (btw) due to the fun of installing it and If it breaks then you that process again with onother de or a different setup
void linux. it uses runit and it's a rolling-release. i like runit because i don't like the systemctl command for some reason. doing ln -s /etc/sv/serv_name /var/service and sv up serv_name is way nicer imo.
Fedora Kinoite because it doesnt suck and doesnt break. Actually switched to ublue kinoite main, very close to upstream with minimal changes that always stay the same (its always the same difference, not weirdly diverging more and more from upstream).
But I dont know if it is the best model, as Fedoras BTRFS snapshots + ostree without the image based thing would sound better ? But this is not existing.
Btw Nix, Flatpak, Distrobox/Toolbox, Distrobox/Toolbox with root, Podman, Docker, layering, removal, are all things that work on Fedora Atomic. Maybe even snap if someone is brave enough to try
Arch is great, but it needs longer explanations considering the user needs to do a lot more. Sometimes you find them, but other times you find a snarky superuser with zero people skills.
It's a shame they aren't government standard, so I could take a local course to become a snarky superuser too.
Most of it involves everyday Linux usages, but some of it is specific to Arch and it breaks so hard. It's not a great thing when you're stupid busy and don't have the headroom to get to the bottom of it. Sometimes all you get is vague theories on how a fix might occur. After that you're playing shell games trying to debug your problems.
Definitely recommend for pro-Linux people that have a breakable laptop that can go on the backburner.
I might have missed the part why you prefer it over others
In working through the installation I was the least disappointed I've ever been with an OS. The result was something I truly liked. If I nail down every single problem it could be my all time favourite machine.
Ubuntu because it requires the least amount of hack fixes to get working.
And snap has vastly simplified software installation.
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Fedora Silverblue! 😊
Immutable Linux is the future (and any container-based filesystem )
Immutable Linux are just a path for yet another ecosystem twisting the developer/sysadmins workflow to the point things will require further centralization and/or subscriptions to something.
I'm in the same boat but the future is distant and there are still a lot of stones blocking the way
Arch, because of the AUR and because I can't get fully used to NixOS. Also, I know my way around Arch better tban any other distro. I tried my luck on Debian and it didn't go that well, but I'm willing to try again soon. (If only I could get Hyprland on Debian....)
Advantages: has all the software I need, new versions as well.
Disadvantages: lacks a stable branch (I recently found myself with limited/no internet access for about 2 months; if Arch had a stable release, I wouldn't have had to rebuild my NixOS system over 100 times while I was trying to get a decent DWM setup.
It may be a little behind on updates at this point, but HML is still the best.
I started at Sarge, went to Ubuntu Warthog until Eft, and went Suse and Fedora but then changed to Xubuntu Ibex. I stayed until Vervet and since then have found a very comfy home in Arch.
been rockin kde neon for the last little while, but also really like mint
I was Arch for a long time but now I'm on Fedora. Most of my servers are Ubuntu server, but I'm switching some stuff to fedora server. I've always disliked Ubuntu for some reason.