To be criminally charged for this is absolutely insane. The fact everyone knows he's a lowlife and his name is out there is enough.
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Yeah for me the world has gone too soft. I don't see a crime to be honest there worth going to court for. It was utterly stupid and disgusting what he did but I feel like going to court was too far for it.
Let the club ban him and the media report on it but it feels excessive as he's already lost his job and any future employer will see what he's done with any background check.
People should be allowed to make mistakes and learn from them, I'm sure he's not a bad person at all just did a stupid thing and now will pay for the rest of his life.
I'm sure he's not a bad person
Good people don't tend to mock children who died from cancer, just saying.
Look at the thread about Grealish yesterday, people saying he's such a lovable guy yet he drove and wrote his car off while absolutely steaming.
Anyone can make a mistake in the heat of the moment with alcohol involved. Imagine one mistake defining you for the rest of your life. If he's acknowledged the mistake learned from it and makes him a better person then that's much more important than villifying him and going to court over such a thing.
I don't agree with a criminal offence and going to court over the matter.
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It’s a public order offence though? And his sentence was suspended. I don’t get the issue.
Imagine being a 32 year old man and doing that. I know being a dickhead isn't technically a crime and I don't think he should necessarily be charged with anything, but I'm kinda happy he's being shamed like this.
I don't care if it was too much of a punishment, he fucking deserves it
tbh I forgot that mascots in soccer are the little kids that walk out with the players, I thought some guy was making fun of a grown man in a glorified furry suit
It's just banter
Sad life if you find mocking a dead child banter
What a fucking moron.
Basically torn his own world apart for literally no reason at all.
For anyone who can't click on the link, in doing this utterly fucking stupid thing, he has:
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Been given a 5-year stadium ban.
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Had to pay a £154 victim surcharge.
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Had to pay £85 in prosecution costs.
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12-week suspended prison sentence (suspended for up to 18 months).
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Ordered to do 200 hours of unpaid work.
What a fucking moron.
It even says in the article that he's had to move out of his parents' home because of the backlash his actions caused, and apparently his relationship with his partner has been affected too.
Can't believe someone would willingly do something like that anyway, such a stupid and unkind thing to do, and that's even before you get to how fucking stupid it is to do these days anyway, especially when we live in a world where everything is recorded.
The guy is 32, his parents are probably happy to have an excuse to make him move out.
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suspended prison sentence for that? 200hrs of unpaid work? lol jesus, thats excessive
I think the fact that he printed something out at home shows it wasn't a complete spur of the moment thing and that's why its a bit harsher.
When youre at home whipping up something to make fun of a child of cancer, how does nothing in your brain go off telling you to stop?
Justice imo. You don’t mock a child who lost a battle to cancer. No excuses for that. Fucker got what he deserved.
Hope he enjoys the 200 hours unpaid graft too.
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Also lost his job as a window fitter.
And the job after that, was thrown out of his parents' home and had problems with his partner. According to this article, he seemed remorseful during the court proceedings and afterwards, so hopefully he learned a lesson, and many other onlookers.
Chat shit get banged I guess...
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It seems every week I see the UK criminally charging people for disgusting and offensive chants, gestures etc.
They are disgusting acts but to criminally charge for this is insanity and a slippery slope to the Government deciding what you can and can’t say.
Why though?
The law isn't new, we've had lots of iterations of it over the centuries.
Also, freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequences for saying it or doing it.
Slippery slope? These laws have existed for longer than both of us have been alive.
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The government represents the people. We’ve had this laws for over a hundred years.
We aren’t America, we don’t view free speech in the same way.
Why is insanity when it’s a breach of the Public Order Act 1986? This is nothing new. I’m not sure I understand how anyone is complaining.
We think we're American.
Yeah, in a country constantly being americanised with its media, sport, etc. the biggest one is that everyone seems to think we have free speech laws like the USA all of a sudden
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Am I gonna cry for this moron? Not one tear.
Is this punishment reasonable? Fuck, I just don't know man...
Is the punishment unreasonable? Probably.
Do I care about someone who thought it would be funny to make fun of a child who dies of cancer? Absolutely not, they can throw the book at him for all I care
100% suspended sentence is correct. What he did is bad but he shouldn’t be taking up a cell in overflowing prisons.
Suspended essentially means no more public order offences so hopefully behaves
What I don't know is does he have a criminal record now?
Absolutely, yes.
He got a 3-month custodial sentence. Convictions resulting in custodial sentences shorter than 12 months become 'spent' 12 months after the sentence ends. So, his conviction will be 'unspent' for the next 15 months.
While his conviction is 'unspent' he still only needs to tell an organisation about it (e.g. for a job application) if they ask him, but it will show up on any DBS - basic, standard or enhanced.
After it becomes 'spent' it will only show up on a standard or enhanced DBS check. He only needs to tell a potential employer, university or college about it if they ask him to and they tell him the role needs a standard or enhanced DBS check and it has not been removed ('filtered') from DBS certificates (as it resulted in a custodial sentence, it can't ever be filtered).
It's against the law for an employer, university or college to refuse someone a role because they've got a spent conviction or caution, unless it makes them unsuitable for the role (i.e. a driving conviction might make them unsuitable for a job as a driving instructor).
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He isn't though. It's a suspended sentence.
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The only difference between the UK and China is the degree of surveillance and control, although with the ULEZ cameras and people getting arrested for standing on streets thinking wrong thoughts the UK is fighting valiantly to close the distance.
My dude, are you still trying to push this narrative that the UK is a police state?
Just take the L and move on.
You didn't look up the definition, you are embarrassed. I get it.
Oh no, catching criminals, what a terrible thing!
Being a total knobhead shouldn't get you charged as a criminal.
it's an actual joke what western society has become - not for one second are his actions fine, they're disgusting and vile.
but where do u draw the line between that and making a 9/11 meme on the internet?
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While I don’t feel like he should have been criminally charged, I don’t feel bad for him it’s a dickhead thing to do and I don’t even know how you could make a funny joke from that
I've never understood this. Why should harm be ignored in law? Would you really feel free in a country where you just had to allow someone to say what they wanted whenever they wanted?
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The idea of him potentially doing jail time for this is a bit silly but I'm definitely not opposed to the unpaid work/community service part of the punishment.
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Vile
Not surprising, there’s zero room in the prisons at the minute. Stuff like this will never end up with you behind bars.
he’s a massive cunt but that sentence is ridiculous.
literally can get the same sentence for burglary.
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This just has the potential to create a horrendous slippery slope
While obviously these men are vile cunts, these harsh crack downs on free speech are becoming an alarming trend the last few years
Alcoholic human garbage
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