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The crash happened around 6:30 a.m. when the driver of a 2009 Honda Civic tried to outrun deputies from the Zavala County Sheriff’s Office and attempted to pass a semi truck, the state Department of Public Safety said. The Civic collided with a 2015 Chevrolet Equinox, which caught fire.

Everyone in both vehicles was killed, according to DPS. That includes the 21-year-old driver of the Civic, who as from Houston, and his five passengers. Some of the passengers were from Honduras, department spokesman Christopher Olivarez said in a statement. The two people in the Equinox were from Georgia.

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[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The police were worried about people's safety, so the police killed everyone, including Innocent bystanders.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

It's policy to not engage in high speed chases like that in many places just for that reason.

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wanna know when the hell LEOs are gonna learn that a high-speed chase is NEVER worth 8 lives.

ACAB

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All Carsalesmen Are Bastards.

Defund the dealerships.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 5 points 1 year ago

We can see that cops and cars are both problems.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But they do it on TV!

Isn't that where cops get their vocational education?

[–] cuibono@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Absolutely brutal and completely unnecessary at that. The level of risk to everyone on that highway was never gonna be worth it just to catch some migrants.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps we shouldn't punish people for crossing imaginary lines

[–] ripe_banana@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...and definitely not capitally punish them

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or throw them into concentration camps

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It's ok, we're renaming them to focus groups. Much more humane sounding.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A few ways to help with human trafficking if people really cared.

  1. Legalize prostitute and heavily regulate it with stiff penalties for those that do black mart deals.

  2. Streamline the immigration process and develop a non us citizen hotline/website to report crimes. Protect them from local and state prosecution for immigration status after reporting a crime.

Everyone wants a better life but when you make it harder, you create a dark alternative.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree that regulated prostitution is a good thing, but that's not going to reduce demand for illegal prostitution or human trafficking. There are already stiff penalties for those crimes, but criminals do not expect to be caught.

I agree with your second point, as well.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legalize prostitution would address sex trafficking and lower the numbers. Nothing is 100% but it would be a huge start.

Just like legalization of drugs, yes there will always be a black market for it but, we have dramatically reduced the numbers by giving a safe option. Legalize prostitution would also allow people that know something is wrong an ability to report it without fear of retaliation. It's a start not and end.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Legalizing prostitution hasn't lowered sex trafficking in any of the parts of the world where prostitution is legal. And I think it should be legal, but that's not the argument that gets you there.

Human trafficking is about controlling people, taking the desperate and controlling them for fun and profit. Yes, victims may avoid law enforcement for fear of prosecution, but that has more to do with attitudes towards women than it does with attitudes towards sex work. Compare the rights of a prostitute in New York, where it is illegal, with a prostitute in Bangladesh, where it is legal. It's not just the law, but the cultural attitudes towards human rights and equality that affect human trafficking.

But the expansion of the market just creates more demand, and more visible demand, which outpaces the reduction due to competition from legal prostitutes. In other words, just because it's legal doesn't mean women want to be prostitutes, and the demand for sex workers far exceeds the supply. Legalization allows pimps to go corporate, and pay taxes, while still exploiting vulnerable people with economic coercion and violence.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Holy shit that was a brutal wreck. Both vehicles mostly disintegrated. I hope no kids were involved.

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And ofc the cops won't say how fast they were going.

If you're gonna be a cop and engage in behavior that endangers others, you better be able to own up to it.

[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Or else what? Extra vacation?

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The American Civil Liberties Union of Texas has tallied 106 deaths in Border Patrol vehicle pursuits from January 2010 to June of this year. Deaths averaged 3.5 a year through 2019 but spiked in 2020, leading officials to develop a new policy for vehicle pursuits with an eye toward increasing safety.

The policy announced in January stops short of prohibiting chases but, according to CBP, “provides a clear framework for weighing the risks of conducting pursuits, such as the dangers they present to the public, against the law enforcement benefit or need.”

Either the framework isn’t as clear as you think it is, or they just don’t give a shit.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The reporting isn't clear or is being intentionally vague. DPS is state police. That's who was pursuing the vehicle.

CBP/USBP are federal agents. They weren't pursuing this vehicle. CBP is who updated their policy.

So the framework may be clear and may be working just fine. DPS doesn't necessarily follow the federal framework though. Maybe DPS needs to adopt it?

They are reporting on apples and oranges like they are the same thing. This reporter needs to do better.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It gives cops real boners to know they helped murder people. So they do give a shit, just for selfish purposes tho.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Houston is the 2nd most trafficked city in the US.

It's an open secret and there's so much money being passed around, nothing is really being done about it.

[–] Indymelt@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Bake em away, toys!