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That's a controversial call if it's any other club

Can incidental contact like this be a red card?

This is just ridiculous

LOL THIS SPORT IS FUCKING DEAD. Get out of here. Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. Game is gone.

How can u even pretend to be surprised? Is he dumb?

Definitely not his intention, but still 100% deserved red card.

Same reasoning as Romero. He doesn't intend to try and injure, however, he ends up risking that. Not as bad as Romero obviously, but still.

As a Liverpool fan who is loving the outcome of this game, this should defo not be a red

People forgot they were watching a Manchester United game

That’s a harsh red

I'm nor sure about this one, too much reffing consequences and not actions. Rashy is protecting the ball, doesn't have any sight of the man moving into where he makes contact.

Ultimately that's a nasty piece of contact, but the degree of contact shouldn't really be so much of a decider.

bruh

If the letter of the law says this is a red, the letter of the law should be changed.

Clearly no intent there but that has to be given

Wait people think this is a fair card??? nah this is a shocking one

Defenders hate this one trick!

Just slide your foot under the defenders foot before it comes down for an easy red card.

Shielding the ball and an accident happens = a red? Sorry, shit happens sometimes, doesn't mean it's reckless. That's a stupid red and you can't justify it any other way.

most of you guys have never played football of u think thats a red,

Not a red

surprised my the amount of ManU flairs agreeing with the (correct) red card also surprised by the amount of neutral flairs who believe that accidental ankle breakers have a free pass on the pitch

I’m clearly becoming more and more out of touch because that’s never a red, but I’m seeing a pretty even split of opinions. Just wow. Shielding the ball. What’s next, players slides you while you’re running normally and if you step on him then it’s a red.

This has to be one of the most benign maneuvers I’ve ever seen given a red.

"A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play."

Law 12

This is just a dumb red imo. The only leg you have to stand on is that he steps on the guys ankle but there’s literally nothing in this. He is simply taking a step to shield the ball and the other play sticks his foot out right where he’s stepping. Is Rashford supposed to drag his feet along the floor to get where he’s trying to go? This is normal shit that happens in the game. Stop punishing players for freak occurrences and focus on what cards are for, dangerous plays. Nothing about this was dangerous, just unfortunate timing by both players.

Warning: /r/soccer thread about Rashford. Studs on leg snapping stamp on player's shin, "twasnt never a foul that". Anything this guy does is excused.

Most people here showing they have never stepped foot on a pitch.

Dude is stepping to block the ball and the Copenhagen guy just sticks his foot in. Very unfortunate but if you get stepped on trying to play the ball it does happen.

When Cisse got his leg broken it was sad but it wasn’t a red card.

VAR is not doing its job properly.

Apparently all you need to do is stick your leg under someone’s foot while they’re stepping to force a red card on the other team

Great precedent that will not be applied after today

Dont like that red at all, just trying to shield the ball

This sub makes me go insane sometimes.

It seems you have to break a bone for it to be a red card, and even then I’m sure half the sub would argue it’s not because it was an accident.

That’s a red by the laws of the game but here’s my question: When they examine elbow-related reds, they always look for intent, player looking at opponent vs the ball. Why not apply the same logic to a situation like this? There’s obviously no intent there, it makes no sense.

Is that really a red?

I don't really understand how he gets a red card for defending the ball when somebody else dives in for a tackle

At most this is a yellow

This basically happened to Marcelo. Completely innocent move but with horrible results. It's a red.

I see so many people here say intent doesn’t matter, and maybe it doesn’t, but shouldn’t it?

Remember when Shaw leg broken in half and Moreno walked out no foul and then scored after? That's reckless.

Rashford 100% just tried to shield the ball and Kobenhavn player literally put his foot under where Rashford landed his leg when he didn't see it. There was nothing reckless there, it's just very normal action with no malicious intent at all.I thought it's just a common sense.....

Yet Bruno G was ignored for an even worst slap on the back of Jorginho’a head!

The fact this sub is agreeing it’s a harsh decision just confirms that Savage is an absolute tool.

Ten hag is going to blame so many things in the presser

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What's the actual rule here? No mal intent = no red? Or any studs above the ankle = red?

anyone that says that isnt a red (regardless of intent) is genuinely insane

His out of form rn . He hasn't done anything in this season

Unintentional but dangerous and looks painful. Red card all day these days.

By the rules of the game this is a red. 100% excessive force used even if unintentional

I dont know man, do we give red cards for unfortunate clashes now. It was not a tackle, not reckless not out of control.

Seems ridiculous to be a red card.

This is one of those where I don't think there's any intention on Rashford's part, but it is a red. If he doesn't put his foot out so far then the contact is nowhere near as severe.

I don’t understand how there is an argument against this red card

Is everyone posting here like ten years old or just happen to have short memories?

The suggestion that this is somehow a new approach by refs is way off the mark. As a refresher, here's Ronaldinho's red card in the Quarter Final of the 2002 World Cup against England (which was less dangerous than Rashford's tackle here- Ronaldinho scrapes the shin of his opponent whereas Rashford could easily have broken his opponent's leg) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GckBqFP120s

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By the way, I think Rashford is one of the true good guys in the game. Feel genuinely sad that he's going to now have a torrent of abuse from knuckle draggers who have the mental maturity of a five year old on a sugar rush.

I cousin called complaining saying his team got a farcical red card. Watching this, how does he even complain, Rashford just no awareness where feets and ankles are

not sure why this is controversial. any studs up challenge is an automatic red. reminds me of that Ibrahimovic Red vs i think Manu U when he was on PSG in a RO16 game.

im sure there are loads of others like this given a red. intent doesn't matter, just the outcome, which is always an injured player.

I think the current application of rules is very fucked up in that they judge a player by the outcome, not their intent, nor even a "reasonably foreseeable consequence" of their action.

Havertz was a red card all day long for me, it's an incredibly dangerous, out of control tackle, off the ground, plenty of force, that's going to break someone's leg but he gets lucky and doesn't make much contact, so they give a yellow, even though it's blatantly dangerous. Rashford tries to shield the ball and a leg appears under him and it's a red. It's not some outrageously dangerous action, if he doesn't make contact, and it's not even a foul, whereas the Havertz one should be a red regardless of contact, IMO.

We now punish dangerous tackles and unfortunate accidents identically. It was a red card in 2023, but it shouldn't be, IMO.

Disclaimer: I don't have a hard on for punishing Havertz in particular, it was just the most recent "dangerous tackle" let off that stuck in my head

Oh hell nah. That's even worse in slow motion.