In the event of a collision autopilot will disconnect moments before impact making the collision fully the fault of the driver in charge. This is a feature, not a bug.
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2023
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It's the fault of the driver whether it's engaged or not
It's unknown if autopilot was engaged... Sigh..
They know, they just can't tell the media while the investigation is ongoing.
But if a vehicle crashed on a turning tractor trailer (they start to slow down and signal hundreds and hundreds of meters before turning) hitting on the side without signs of braking, it means the driver was sleeping while the cruise control was engaged (I don't use their misleading marketing term for what is actually an advanced cruise control)
Indeed, no human has crashed into a turning tractor trailer before.
It happens because other cars also have cruise control. Human gets accidentally asleep with cruise control on, dies on impact.
You forgot the /s. A lot of humans exist.
Forbes reports; nothing to report.
Next.
Every day, almost 3,700 people are killed globally in crashes involving cars, buses, motorcycles, bicycles, trucks, or pedestrians; nobody bats an eye. (c.f. US CDC)
One Tesla crashes and it's front page news.
I guess the difference is we expect humans to fuck up, but autonomous driving is meant to eventually be the thing that replaces that and stops us fucking up.
It just needs to to be better than humans, not perfect. That would save lives.
The scary thing to me is that humans are predictable, or at least, predictable in their unpredictableness.
With AI, it's a black box I don't understand. When it suddenly crashes, I literally will have no idea why.
You deal with a different sort of people than I do.
And Tesla's shitty ADAS is making the rest of the industry look bad.
Leave the billionaire and his shitty cars alone 😭
This same crash modality was one of the first autopilot crashes.
When your autopilot will drive right into the side of a truck, people are right to question its safety.
Quoting individual instances is not helpful. The more important question is whether their auto pilot makes driving safer on average. According to Tesla themselves..
"the accident rate with Autopilot engaged is just a fraction of the industry average in the US.
From their report:
" Tesla vehicles with Autopilot engaged (mostly highway miles) had just 0.18 accidents per million miles driven, compared to the US vehicle average of 1.53 accidents per million miles.
Teslas on non-highways with Full Self Driving (FSD) engaged had just 0.31 accidents per million miles representing an 80% reduction in accidents compared with the average vehicle. Tesla vehicles with no active safety triggered – neither Autopilot of FSD – had an accident rate of 0.68, less than half the total US vehicle fleet".
I would really like to see independent verification of this.
Fatal Tesla crash MAY HAVE INVOLVED ALIENS!