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[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@lemmy.world 143 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Terrorist settler kills Palestinian harvesting olives on his land. Terrorist settler: how could Hamas do this?

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Where is the Palestinian right to self defence?

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 130 points 1 year ago (36 children)

But then when the guy's son picks up an AK and takes revenge he is a terrorist

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When you don't provide a political solution to a situation, people will resort to non-political solutions.

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[–] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

death by aerial bombardment would be my guess.

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[–] filister@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In total, since 2005, only 3% of investigation files opened following ideologically motivated offenses Israelis committed against Palestinians in the West Bank led to convictions.

Source: https://www.yesh-din.org/en/data-sheet-december-2022-law-enforcement-on-israeli-civilians-in-the-west-bank-settler-violence-2005-2022/

Let that sink in!

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[–] Juujian@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I thought the scripture was quite clear with that whole "Thou shalt not kill" part...

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Ah, but that says not to kill people. It says nothing about killing rats! /s

Seriously, though, that's exactly why we're so capable of committing atrocities: we dehumanize each other until we consider it acceptable to kill. Portraying Jews as rats and subhuman is exactly how the Holocaust happened, and portraying Palestinians as subhuman is exactly how Israel is currently doing what they're doing.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thou shalt not kill people. They don’t consider Palestinians people.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nah it's ok god is always on their side. (Any group that does terrorist shit)

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Jewish scripture always left room for murder.

This book, popular among the Israeli religious right, shows that their thinking (that segment) is much like Da'esh but for Jews: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torat_Hamelekh

Even Al Qaeda thought that killings at least needed a reason.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago

We all know terrorist can't read.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was a video yesterday of terror israelis posing threatening and blocking the road to the land of Palestinian olive trees while Palestinians tried to harvest

https://youtu.be/UuMUuqqa7NM?si=m0kSUnEn7lxV5qWy

I guess one of those terror israelis decided it was time to do some more western backed war crimes.

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Just read this article and get more infuriated:

*Samaria Regional Council head Yossi Dagan issued a rare video statement on Shabbat describing the incident: “This incident is a simple incident,” he claimed, saying that the settler family involved was “upstanding,” and a father and “son, a combat soldier on weekend leave” were “attacked with rocks by dozens of wild Hamas supporters.”

The son, claimed Dagan, “fired in the air to protect the life of his father and younger brothers… the details are clear and straightforward. A family was attacked and I completely back the on-leave soldier who protected his family.” *

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[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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My personal speculation:

Off duty means he will likely end up in front of a military court and they will ask three things: if he followed military procedure for opening live fire, if he felt there was a non-violent way to resolve the incident, and why he was there in the first place. He'll get reprimanded, potentially sentenced for murder, and possibly discharged. More likely is he'll deny guilt, make some claims and bring family as witnesses. In the end, he might even get away with less than a year in military prison.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Even this is highly unlikely: https://www.yesh-din.org/en/data-sheet-december-2022-law-enforcement-on-israeli-civilians-in-the-west-bank-settler-violence-2005-2022/

The reality is that law enforcement forces are just closing their eyes when there is a crime committed against Palestinians and I can imagine that now the bias would be even higher, so most likely he will get away with this murder.

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[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The west needs to step in again, ctrl-z the postww2 treaties, and give the land back to palestinians. Israel has squandered its chance and this heaping pile of shit all stems from dickheads trying to make the Bible true.

[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, none of the west's support is really because we think it's good to help Jewish people. At the end of WWII, virtually no middle eastern states were similar to our ideology, and most of the natural resources to power our war machines were located there. Additionally, it's at the boundary of three other geopolitical centers of commands.

Israel is America's ability to project power, that's why we give them so much money

[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there is to be any hope of peace, such cases need to be prosecuted just as strictly as what Hamas did.

[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably going to get a slap on the wrist

[–] erranto@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

decorated in secret.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


This brings the number of Palestinians reported killed by settlers to seven since Hamas’s bloody incursion into Israel three weeks ago.

Tayseer Mahmoud said his nephew, Bilal Saleh, was working in the grove in the village of Sawiya with his wife and their four children on Saturday when a group of settlers attacked them.

Settler leader Yossi Dagan said in a video posted on the social media p(platform Facebook Saturday that the shooter was accompanied by family members and fired in self-defense after they were “attacked with rocks by dozens of rioting Hamas supporters.”

The deadly shooting took place amid a spike in settler violence since Hamas militants infiltrated Israel on Oct. 7, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking over 230 others hostage.

In addition to the killings, Palestinians in the West Bank have reported attacks on people and property, as well as denial of access to their land.

Since the outbreak of the war alone, more than 100 Palestinians, including civilians, have been killed, most during military arrest raids and violent protests in the West Bank.


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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Can we all agree the word "settler" can fucking do one here? You don't "settle" already occupied land. You invade it.

[–] frequenttimetraveler@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he had a right to self defense in the land he occupied

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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They did that for the Last 70 years and Western powers, champions of humans rights didn't flinch. but they will sure that a dead dog in their backyard becomes concern of every other nation.

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