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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Android. Google doesnt invest anything in AOSP it seems, GrapheneOS is the only really well made Distro.

Androids security model is a joke as every phone is bloated with malware that has full access over everything.

Banking apps need Google, map apps need Google.

There is no split screen in AOSP since forever.

No tools on the lockscreen. I am not talking about crazy ios like tools that are basically a seperate OS, its still a lockscreen. But camera and torch?

So many restrictions. RootlessJamesDSP is a good example of crazy workarounds that still dont work in the end. No FOSS appstore with autoupdates is also a pain.

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[–] TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Sorry mate. I love them all! All free software, especially GPL-based but still have high appreciation for the BSDs as well. Even Red Hat that has messed everything up recently, has a soft spot in my heart, with Fedora being the first distro I really enjoyed Linux in 2003 (very first Fedora Core). However, IBM/RedHat make a real effort to become the one and only distro that I may list here.

[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Using arch but honestly. I don't "like" any of them. Every distro I've ever used has required more setup and maintenance than I would have liked.

I really just want a system that doesn't bork itself on updates and let's me install whatever software I want. You would think that wouldn't be so impossible to find.

[–] DryTomatoes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like you need an LTS.

[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried debian stable a week or two ago. Had about 4 different showstopper bugs in 3 or so days. It doesn't seem to help much from my limited experience.

[–] DryTomatoes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh. Are you running any kind of exotic setup? What kind of bugs were they? Can you be sure they were Debian bugs and not hardware issues?

[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. I had both actually. Hardware and debian specific bugs, on a clean install from the live iso with barely any packages installed from apt and like 10 flatpaks. I'm a bit exhausted rn to find all the links. But let me find at least the worst one for ya.

This was the most egregious one. essentially. On a fresh install updating was broken. Yeah. It was that bad.

In addition to that there was the amd ftpm stutter. Which isn't necessarily debians fault. But it's still bad.

And I was having screen flickers. Not sure why. I was tired enough of it bugging out that I just gave up on the stable dream and went back to arch.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

Red Hat for obvious reasons. Used to run and recommend CentOS before all the fuckery.

[–] _I_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, scrolling through every comment, it looks like very few people hate Fedora. I've always been using Debian and Debian based distros but recently moved to Fedora, and I'm not surprised people like it.

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[–] varnia@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ubuntu because of forced Snaps

SUSE because of Yast and the (german) company's rumored? stance on antisemitism (google banned Jewish holidays)

Fedora for it's update mechanism with the forced reboot

Arch as the necessary evil

[–] Thymos@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

SUSE because of Yast and the (german) company’s rumored?stance on antisemitism

I was really surprised to read about the antisemitism allegation. That's a very serious accusation. I've looked into it and it seems that these claims are controversial. First thing to mention is that the accuser said himself that this was about the company SUSE, and not the distribution openSUSE.

The article claims there are emails and other employees' statements as proof, but provides none. The article is also over a year old, so why hasn't this led to any public statements from SUSE or any legal or other actions? Antisemitism is a serious offense in Germany.

Discussions on reddit and hacker news all state that the writer has gone off the rails. When being called out on reddit for deadnaming a trans woman, he plays dumb. I don't think he's dumb. It seems to me like he's transphobic and acting like a troll about it in good old American conservative fashion.

For me, this seriously calls into question any claims he makes about social justice stuff, even if it concerns himself. He apparently views other people's social justice as something to play with, so my gut feeling is that it would be no concern to him to lie or bend the truth about stuff like this in order to achieve something. It's all a game to him in the political arena, not serious life issues.

If I'm wrong, all he has to do is provide the proof he claims there is, even if only anonymized.

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[–] CheshireSnake@lemdit.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ubuntu. Pretty sure you already have an idea why. Lol.

OpenSUSE. I've always had issues trying to use it, from zypper to updates to bootloops. It's also sluggish compared to other distros (yes, same DEs usually) on my laptop. I've tried at least 3x trying to get why a lot of people love it. It's just not for me.

I've never tried Manjaro yet, but coming from Arch and EOS I don't think I ever will.

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[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Manjaro got me unironically back to windows

update: thanks to archcraft i'm back on the linux train

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never had a good experience with an arch based distro. I understand that's kind of the goal, and it's great if you want to use your computer to set up arch, but I want to use my computer for other things.

Endeavor, Arch, Manjaro et al.

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[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Well, Ubuntu. I've been skeptical of it from the beginning, but I did use it on and off in the 00's. Canonical has since gone out of their way to make sure I won't install their shit on my computers.

Recent developments have also somewhat soured me on Fedora.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

which linux distro do you NOT like, and why?

The one with the most elitist gatekeeping users.

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[–] Kristof12@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Fedora, mostly because of the decisions they make are mostly for corporate areas;

The kernel selection they make, packages and etc;

Sometimes need to deal with kernels they select that don't work well with my hardware

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[–] jimakososx@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every distribution offers different things. I like debian sid for the simplicity and general software availability, but APT is something i still consider a bit clunky. I like arch because of its barebones philosophy - arch wiki helped me a lot learn about linux. I like gentoo - the wiki is awesome and portage is a great package manager. It was the first time I saw how the linux kernel gets compiled. It makes you appreciate all the work the devs do. I now read the title and you ask for the opposite. But someone might find these bad, so i will post it as-is

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[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm noy going to say I dislike it, but I don't see the point in a source based distro like Gentoo anymore.

I learned a lot from using Gentoo when I was just getting into Linux 20 years ago, but now looking back on it, why would I want to juggle with everyones build systems and compiler flags? Especially now hardware is so homogenous.

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[–] liquidpaper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

For beginners, and rolling distribution. A beginner should start with something that doesn't break while you don't understand if it's your or the shiny new program that broke the system. But then, I have been using Debian for more that 20 years. For me it's a tool, not a game.

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