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[–] Lodespawn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Interesting that despite it still being summer and roasty toasty in the southern hemisphere in January, the world average temp is still lower than the northern hemisphere summer.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The southern hemisphere has a lot more water surface area, which has a larger heat capacity, is somewhat reflective, and a lower density / conductivity.

This is why Australians and Brazilians are known to be amphibious during summer.

[–] Lodespawn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that was my thought, turns out the land water ratio in the northern hemisphere is 2:3 while it's 1:4 in the southern hemisphere

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Averages mean almost nothing. They can't really be used to say anything meaningful.

1000 men vs 1000 women: 999 men earn $1 per hour. 1 man earns $1,000,000 per hour. 1,000 women earn $500 per hour. On average, men earn $1000 per hour, but women earn on average half that.

The reality is obviously very different to the average.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This would only be a relevant criticism if our temperatures had a swing like 1-$1,000,000 does.

The reality is obviously very different than you suspected.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

No, the point remains the same. The point is averages by design remove peaks and lows by averaging them out. A system as complex as our atmosphere needs to be considered more granularly than just as by averages. Peaks and lows cause massive disasters, like in Europe right now.

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is the world so much hotter during the Northern Hemisphere summer?

[–] krzyz@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As far as I know that's mostly because there's much more land in the Northern Hemisphere and the temperature differences (day/night but also summer/winter) are much more pronounced over the land than over the sea: the land heats and cools faster.

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks buddy! Wow on Lemmy people actually answer your questions that come late in the thread. Incredible.

[–] acunasdaddy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think also El Niño right?

[–] Ozzy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yippie! I love global warming!!!!! Thank you big corporations you are so cool!

[–] Razgriz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken, before recording temps earth started as a molten volcano ridden planet billions of years ago, no?

Compared to that this is just a slightly warmer ice age. We good.

Checkmate Thunbergers!

[–] GataZapata@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See this to visualize time frames on this kind of stuff

https://xkcd.com/1732/

[–] Razgriz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Isn't the heat causing icebergs to break off of antarctica and melt into the ocean?

Nature is balancing things out. The hotter it gets, the more ice it drops into the ocean. We are panicking for nothing 😊

[–] islandofcaucasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just for my own sanity, are you just trolling and I'm too thick to catch it, or do you legitimately believe what you're saying?

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure they are just cosplaying a moron. And if not I honestly feel sorry that the public schools failed them so badly

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Relevant: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

I honestly can't tell, as I know there are people who are that stupid.

[–] ghostBones@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Climate change" is obsolete, now it's "climate crisis". I suppose after that it's climate collapse and then climate desolation.

[–] GataZapata@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Climate apocalypse pretty soon. Maybe climate collapse of society first, briefly

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say climate apocalypse and climate societal collapse are the same thing. Apocalypse doesn't mean extinction, otherwise how would we have a post-apocalyptic world?

[–] Gamey@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I will drive a fat car and scream like an idiot 24/7! 😂

[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So even if climate change isn't real (which obviously it is.) What's the down side? We invest in renewable energy, not pollute as much. Oh the horror!

[–] cerevant@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the people who made money investing in the old way stop making money. That’s it. That’s the entire problem. The fossil fuels industry wants to keep making money, and the politicians who are bribed by them want to keep getting bribes. So they create a culture war so the facts don’t matter.

[–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not THAT simple. For a period of time, there is a slight reduction in quality of life as people switch to renewables. Example, in many towns there are mandatory solar requirements on new homes, which inflates the cost of construction for homeowners etc. Same with the no gas hookup requirements now in some cities where you can' get a gas line to your house... which means higher costs to run your heat etc.

It's one of those short term problems but it impacts people in a real way and people just don't wanna go for that.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the conservatives don’t disagree that climate change is real, they disagree that humans are responsible. To them it’s things like El Niño or solar activity.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's actually a spectrum of disavowal of responsibility:

  • It's not happening.
  • Even if it is happening, it's not our fault.
  • Even if it is our fault, there is nothing we can do.
  • Even if there is something we can do, it's too late to do anything.

It's just that the first stage (denialism) is starting to become untenable.

[–] Syd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
  • Even if it isn't too late to do something it's the others that should do it
  • Even if we are the ones that should do something, it's down to everyone individually so no job for the politicians
  • Even if it is down to the state, sorry it's too expensive.