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[–] Petit_Hughie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Do people just randomly forget that some clubs used to be owned by banks and that’s how they are where they are today?

I’m not going to be an hypocrite and say Chelsea doesn’t have a role to play in the current state of football but if it wasn’t Chelsea it was going to be another club.

Current state of football was inevitable. It was going to happen regardless.

[–] XHeraclitusX@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think people are nitpicking this article a bit. Saying Chelsea are poster boys for whats wrong with football today is a reasonable take. Sure, they could have said Newcastle or PSG or Man City, but the person is expressing an opinion and it's not a bad one, certainly not as bad as people in this comment section are making it out to be.

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[–] inspired_corn@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Feel like most of the other commenters didn’t actually read his article…

I pretty much agree with everything he’s saying. Football has been going downhill extremely quickly over the last 20-30 years. It’s so far out of touch from what it once was.

Between the nation states owning clubs and the hyper-capitalists making the fan experience downright dreadful it’s worrying to see how far the sport has fallen.

[–] Opposite-Mediocre@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Thats exactly how washing money works. He will have lost some but has cleaned through legit money now. It also opens up loads of opportunities with legitimate business with the west.

Don't worry he will get his money. Even if he doesn't the intent to sportswash was still there.

[–] I_always_rated_them@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Chelsea aren't close to the first to be bankrolled by an outside party.

[–] Karsa0rl0ng@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

And may all the bankrolled teams at the moment end up like Blackburn.

[–] DeLurkerDeluxe@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Chelsea aren't the "poster boys for when football goes wrong" at all, that title sits squarely with Manchester City, Newcastle and PSG, I think.

Oh look, another kid who forgot Abramovich.

[–] Impossible_Wonder_37@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re singled out because you spent a billion pounds in a year how is the difficult for some chelsea fans to understand. And then to further the singling out after spending untold money you are remarkably bad.

[–] ygog45@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Ok so by your logic

American billionaire who spends a lot = oligarch

American billionaire who is cheap = not an oligarch

That makes a lot of sense

[–] Jiminyfingers@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Holier-than-thou? Andy Hamilton is a Chelsea season ticket holder, or at least was until last year. He is one of your own saying this, its not rival fans trying to banter you, or the media getting their knives out for the club.

[–] Extremiel@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I wrote my comment in response to the people in this thread, most of which have clearly not even read the article posted but just used the oppertunity to blame Chelsea for everything.

Should have clarified that, my bad.

[–] Silantro-89@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

They aren't even in the top 10 of where football has "gone wrong".

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[–] HnNaldoR@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It's like people not remembering Leeds. That was a disaster. Or Sunderland...

[–] HCHLH@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Malaga

Racing de Santander

Deportivo La Coruña

[–] epicmarc@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They have plenty of blood. They get it from their blood boys

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[–] imp0ppable@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, that's the point, it's intentionally hypocritical. I wasn't just taking a shit on Chelsea.

[–] ygog45@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Ok so by your logic

American billionaire who spends a lot = oligarch

American billionaire who is cheap = not an oligarch

That makes a lot of sense

[–] duded101@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] The_prawn_king@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

A well run sports washing machine aye

[–] Automatic_Taro6005@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] NN2S@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I love how local and lower level football really does answer nearly all of everyone's concerns but they'd rather pretend the Prem was the only football league on Earth and they're forced to put up with it. Absolutely self-inflicted.

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[–] TigerBasket@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He was an ex kgb agent surely they would have known he wasn't a good person yet.

[–] 420b0_0tyWizard@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember a certain fascist who was the owner of an Italian team in the 90s when they had huge success.

[–] FloppedYaYa@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're not allowed to mention that, Milan fans will get pissy and defensive

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[–] Opposite-Mediocre@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Didn't need to. Sports washing worked perfectly. Cleaned through billions of money in Chelsea. Along with that probably opened up many legit business opportunities. Cherry on the cake has thousands of people now like him.

[–] HnNaldoR@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

So what does their state now actually have to do with the roman era? They barely have players from that era, different manager different staff.

It's more or less a different club. And the article was about him not caring about the club after the Todd era.

[–] TheUltimateScotsman@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

paying ridiculous amounts with money loaned from banks.

That's how most of these transfers are paid though. It's particularly obvious with release clauses.

Clubs offer better value for transfer with a significant amount upfront. The buying club hasn't got that money but the interest they pay will be lower than the premium the selling club wants for more installments. Take out a loan and it's ok. Clubs are fairly low risk in terms of lending. Even a club massively in debt will almost always pay their loans eventually.

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[–] gaussian-noise123@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I kinda of feel Poch will turn it around, he is a really good coach and works the best with a group of young players

[–] SeekersWorkAccount@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

And what was the Chelsea Loan Army beyond a "farm" system? It's the same thing lol

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