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[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The writer is proposing Vivaldi, a closed-source browser, as an alternative to Brave, which is free and open-source. I think a better alternative would be Ungoogled Chromium.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] danhab99@programming.dev 30 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It's because he donated $1,000 in support of California's Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California's state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

Besides this I cannot find another good reason not to use brave. Nobody point to a specific line of code that ruins privacy, not enough reasons.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Good enough for this gay Californian.

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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (24 children)

I use Brave as a backup browser. My main one is Firefox.

You can turn off the crypto stuff. You don't have to use Brave Shields (in browser ad blocker). It can be turned off. Now you can use uBlock Origin or another ad blocker.

About the CEO, I can't see nothing about his beliefs reflecting in his work. Looks like he kept them separated. I'm not for said beliefs.

[–] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (8 children)

That you can is besides the point. You shouldn’t need to. If the first thing I need to think about after installing it is “well, let’s see what garbage is in here that I need to turn off”, then any trust I would have for it has already gone out the window. Especially important odor a browser where that is kind of the main differentiating aspect.

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[–] xaxl@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Just because something is open source doesn't mean the people behind it have the best intentions in mind.

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[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree that you shouldn't use Brave browser cause of things they've done in the past but, oh Jesus, that article is so stupid it reminds me the Hogwarts Legacy boycott.

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[–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Unfortunately, there are the ame stuff about Firefox too. Mozilla Foundation is such a corrupt organization with extreme shady finances.

Foundation's main income is royalties by google: 567M per year.

Donations: 7M (which almost goes to the CEO's bonuses)

the CEO gets 700K salary and 4.6M bonuses. Lmao.

I'd suggest, using Firefox but not donating to them.

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've been trying out the DuckDuckGo browser lately on mobile. It uses the Chromium backend, so some sites work better in it than in my normal Firefox.

The neatest feature of the browser is the ability to generate random email addresses in signup forms, and those emails all get forwarded to your real email address. As it forwards the emails, it removes trackers from them. You can click a link in one of the forwarded emails to disable that address from being forwarded any more if it gets spammy.

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[–] CaptainStrider@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Firefox works well enough for me. Never given me any problems or grief. I don't really understand the fascination with chromium forks or the insistence on using them instead of Mozilla's engine.

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[–] zerbey@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I stopped using Brave over the whole BAT thing, it just felt shady and weird. This article just validated my decision even more. Happy to be back with Firefox, even though Mozilla has its own issues.

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[–] anonymouslemmy@feddit.nl 21 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I think that the number 1 reason to not use brave is that is based on the chromium engine. The number 2 is that they use limited anti fingerprinting tools and support his self built tracking and ads. The others about ideology of the CEO i think are not so important.

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[–] mirror_slap@lemmy.film 20 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Well, fork, I hadn't looked at this team behind Brave. I use both Firefox and Brave. Bye bye Brave...

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[–] UmbrellAssassin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Such a brave article. So brave that they turned off the comments when people started bringing up valid criticisms against it. Such a cop out.

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[–] Chipthemonk@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (7 children)

This article did not present a compelling case for abandoning brave. Who cares what the founder thinks about various political issues. If the software is good, then that’s all that matters.

Don’t get me wrong, I support same sex marriage, but people have a right to oppose the concept as marriage is a government idea that is tied up in politics.

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[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly I don't care who or what he personally donated to. But the ad model is the problem for me.

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[–] MaxMouseOCX@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I just read an article about a browser... That somehow included a court case about hulk hogan being gay or not... I had to stop right there lol.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Out of the box Firefox is definitely not very privacy conscious, better than Chrome no doubt, but worse than Brave. It can be configured to be better than both or one can use Librewolf/Mullvad browser

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[–] Usanam@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] Squander@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I dont use brave, but is this how most people choose what browser to use? Weather or not the dev supports gays?

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

I hadn't read the details of their intended ad network. I just recall it sounded shady. Now that I read about it, it sounds very similar conceptually to Google's Privacy Sandbox. I'm not sure if this is a better or worse approach than the status quo but I surely don't trust Brave Inc, a startup with a questionable business model and investors, with gathering and processing this data.

[–] iesou@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wtf is spacebar.news. where do you find sites like this?

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[–] instamat@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just deleted it on my phone. All roads lead back to Firefox.

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[–] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Okay, so the creator of Brave might be a bigot and some of the stuff it does with crypto currency is a little sketchy? And the ads it replaces with the blocked ads are somewhat invasive?

So disable the crypto stuff and use ad-blocking software along with its own adblocking functions.

If a mechanic fixes my car and does a really good job, but he might have some shitty opinions of gay people, as long as he fixes my car I don't care about what he might think of gay people.

Everyone needs to be aware that there's propaganda everywhere. microsoft and google REALLY want you to use their browsers and people are tired of the data MS Edge and chrome collect.

I for one, hate that chrome constantly connects other shit to your google account with just one accidental click sometimes. Edge does the same shit, but brave is the only chromium based browser that doesn't deceptively do shit like that.

I still like firefox better and I only have brave for those rare instances where firefox won't work on a website. And I don't actually believe that the creator of brave is actually a bigot. Pro-liberty, Pro-privacy and anti-surveillance types are always getting smeared as bigots when they aren't.

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[–] zeriah@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I tried Brave for maybe 2 days before going back to literally anything else. The heavy push for Crypto made me wary, and it really didn't seem to be doing anything specific to increase my privacy online.

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