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Even if you think what you would say is obvious, please add. This is genuinely something I think makes sense regarding local bus routes given the longevity of light rail and how infrequently routes change, but I also suffer from confirmation bias, so I'm hoping for reasons this would be a terrible idea but obviously would prefer reasons it would be an even more amazing idea than I thought.

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[–] theplanlessman@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It depends on the type of light rail.

Here in my city the trams share some of the roads with regular traffic, which not only means they can get caught in traffic (though they have priority where possible), but it also means the rails become a real tripping hazard for cyclists (over 800 injuries since 2015 at the last count). There's been an active campaign to introduce more safety measures but the council has been reluctant to do anything about it.

The tramlines are such a well-known hazard to locals that they actually put people off from cycling, which is surely counter-productive.

[–] lckdscl@whiskers.bim.boats 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are these the indented rails? Those will throw you off your bike instantly... Cycling lanes AND tramlines can coexist, but I guess the problem here is when you want to take a turn and the rails are in the middle of the road, so you're forced to just go over them? I guess they could implement some kind of underpass for cyclists and pedestrians.

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[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, we don't have many trams in London, is the issue overly thin wheels like that of racers?

[–] lckdscl@whiskers.bim.boats 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Depends on the road layout; if it's a long straight road then light railway makes sense. It's less maintenance, easier to operate, can move unhindered because it doesn't get stuck in traffic (edit: provided they don't share the roads).

For spaghetti road layouts though, I don't see the benefit, but I could be wrong since I'm no expert.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

There is no reason rail has to be constrained to the road network. Eminent Domain is literally for things like this.

[–] glacials@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you design your bus system like a light rail system without rails, you magically get most of the benefits for far less cost: https://youtu.be/fh1IaVmu3Y8

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 1 points 1 year ago

I also want to eliminate rubber (tyre) wastage?

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

This video is so full of American stereotypes about transit and bad examples of what is considered improvement because you're having 10k instead of 3k riders per day in a city with an urban area of more than 600k people?! I think you could have a pretty sensible network that better serves people with the money poured in the UVX. The initial cost of the BRT is higher than that of light rail but with 10k riders per day do you even need a BRT? BRT also is not direct replacement for the tram or light rail, it doesn't offer the same capacity and ride comfort. Also the queue jumps mentioned in the video are potentially lethal to cyclists.

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